Anyone try out the new Ortofon Q-bert's?

[Ortofon, Inc]

Sound quality, in this case, also relates to the "detail" of the scratch as oppoesed to a "blur".
The pink Scratch cartridge design goal was to have a compromise between sound quality, anti-skip and "abuse resistance"(ie damage to the cantilever)

Straight arms change the whole geomtry of stylus angle and "tweaking" can affect the results from table to table.

No question that the high output can overload older mixers, but current models should have no problem. As stated previously, all Ortofon styli are interchangeable ( except the GT) so the Qbert stylus on a Pros S or Nightclub black body will yield same performance at a lower output.

Once broken in (the ones at Plaza might not have been) the Q's really do stick w/o tearing up the record.

[Deft]

Does the scratch series really have it's own distinct place in the line-up now?

[adobostreak]

Originally posted by Ortofon, Inc

As stated previously, all Ortofon styli are interchangeable ( except the GT) so the Qbert stylus on a Pros S or Nightclub black body will yield same performance at a lower output.

do you know what the max output voltage that can be attained if a qbert stylus were interchanged with an older ortofon cartridge body?

[djobserv]

my guess would be the same output as the normal stylus would put out. im guessing that it dont matter the stylus it depends on on something inside of the actual cartrage.

[Ortofon, Inc]

Deft....the Scratch cart certainly has a place if you like pink -

djobserv...correct about the output, it is the body, not the stylus that determines output (ie: windings on the 4 pole pins)

Adobostreak...on older bodies that would be 6-7mv.

[adobostreak]

couple more questions on the interchanging thing... sorry

so does that mean if i use lets say an elektro stylus (7.5mv) on a original pro-s (5.0mv) cart i would only get a max output of 5.0mv? i upgraded from a pro-s to an elektro using the same cartridge, and it does in fact seems louder.

and lets say if you were to put a pro-s stylus on the qbert cartridge... will that enhance the output to 11-12mv?

i apologize as im just curious about the different possibilities and how the whole thing works

[djobserv]

Originally posted by Ortofon, Inc
Deft....the Scratch cart certainly has a place if you like pink -

djobserv...correct about the output, it is the body, not the stylus that determines output (ie: windings on the 4 pole pins)

Adobostreak...on older bodies that would be 6-7mv.

aye man i got them pink ones. haha but i got the pink one for prety cheap 25 bucks. so i cant really complain about the color. i like it to use to sample. but scratching i have to lower the suspension on the 1200 to like 2 and then put the weight backwards and almost to the end of the tonearm like how that guy set it up on the video on your guys website. do you have any tips? i bought it without a little booklet or something telling you how to set it up.

[Ortofon, Inc]

Originally posted by adobostreak
couple more questions on the interchanging thing... sorry

so does that mean if i use lets say an elektro stylus (7.5mv) on a original pro-s (5.0mv) cart i would only get a max output of 5.0mv? i upgraded from a pro-s to an elektro using the same cartridge, and it does in fact seems louder.

Yes

and lets say if you were to put a pro-s stylus on the qbert cartridge... will that enhance the output to 11-12mv?

Yes

i apologize as im just curious about the different possibilities and how the whole thing works

No problem

[Ortofon, Inc]

Originally posted by djobserv


i like it to use to sample. but scratching i have to lower the suspension on the 1200 to like 2 and then put the weight backwards and almost to the end of the tonearm like how that guy set it up on the video on your guys website. do you have any tips?

The correct tonearm height is parallel to the record when the needle is in the groove. Tracking force 3-4 grams. If scratching anti skating set to zero