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benji2

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I was looking at the facebook page of and old school rapper named Grandaddy IU. It's sorta funny. There's a picture on here at the bottom of Jaz-O on the train. I felt sorry for the homie. Jay Z could have extended a hand. The ludacris chick is hilarious too. had to remove the link due to some suspect picutres.
 
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mark1234 said:
Jaz-O is dope.
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Jay Z' worth a few hundred million, owns a few businesses while Jaz O is riding the train, looking for his next payday. It doesnt sit with me right. I may have not talked to Jaz-O if I were Jay Z. We tend to grow apart as adults but you best believe JaZ-O would still receive checks where he and his family could live comfortably. It's not like Jay is gonna spend all that money in his lifetime. I rather give it to friends and family rather than let Uncle Sam have it.
 
benji2 said:
Jay Z' worth a few hundred million, owns a few businesses while Jaz O is riding the train, looking for his next payday. It doesnt sit with me right. I may have not talked to Jaz-O if I were Jay Z. We tend to grow apart as adults but you best believe JaZ-O would still receive checks where he and his family could live comfortably. It's not like Jay is gonna spend all that money in his lifetime. I rather give it to friends and family rather than let Uncle Sam have it.
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Look how well that piece of sage financial advice worked for Hammer. Please, tell us more about how you'd mismanage your money.
 
Pumpthrust said:
Look how well that piece of sage financial advice worked for Hammer. Please, tell us more about how you'd mismanage your money.
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Some people are inherently greedy so this only applies to generous folks like myself. Hammer only was worth 33 million while Jay Z is worth at least 200 million. Big difference. When you're in that tax bracket, Uncle Sam is gonna rape you. Tax shelters and charitable donations are an alternative rather than giving it to the government. After I've amassed 100-150 million, it is about helping others. Some people cant relate to this concept. That's what Black folks need improvement in;sticking together and help others once we've made it.
 
benji2 said:
Some people are inherently greedy so this only applies to generous folks like myself. Hammer only was worth 33 million while Jay Z is worth at least 200 million. Big difference. When you're in that tax bracket, Uncle Sam is gonna rape you. Tax shelters and charitable donations are an alternative rather than giving it to the government. After I've amassed 100-150 million, it is about helping others. Some people cant relate to this concept. That's what Black folks need improvement in;sticking together and help others once we've made it.
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So I can count on you funding my music doctorate once you get that 100 mill? Cool. I'm also gonna need another $2 mill for this Gibson '57 Les Paul that I need for school. You can write that off, bruh.
 
Pumpthrust said:
So I can count on you funding my music doctorate once you get that 100 mill? Cool. I'm also gonna need another $2 mill for this Gibson '57 Les Paul that I need for school. You can write that off, bruh.
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LOL, I have enough immediate folks in my circle that are struggling. I saw a video of Money Mayweather making it rain in the club with $30,000. You could see the pain in his boys face when they were throwing them racks in the crowd. They were like "what about us? We could use the money ourselves"(lol)
 
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benji2 said:
LOL, I have enough immediate folks in my circle that are struggling. I saw a video of Money Mayweather making it rain in the club with $30,000. You could see the pain in his boys face when they were throwing them racks in the crowd. They were like "what about us? We could use the money ourselves"(lol)
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So you'd only help a few black people, then?
 
benji2 said:
Jay Z' worth a few hundred million, owns a few businesses while Jaz O is riding the train, looking for his next payday. It doesnt sit with me right. I may have not talked to Jaz-O if I were Jay Z. We tend to grow apart as adults but you best believe JaZ-O would still receive checks where he and his family could live comfortably. It's not like Jay is gonna spend all that money in his lifetime. I rather give it to friends and family rather than let Uncle Sam have it.
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"
You know I run track - try not to get lapped
People keep talking 'bout Hov left em flat
Try to re-write history, let's talk about facts
Dame made millions, even Jaz made some scraps
He could've made more but he ain't sign his contract
As far as street guys, we was dealing crack
That's just how the game goes, I don't owe nobody jack
Grown men want me to sit em on my lap
But I don't have a beard and Santa Claus ain't black
I repeat, you can't sit on my lap
I don't have a beard now get off my sack
Scream at me
"



-- Jay Z, What We Talkin Bout





When Jay-Z and Dame decided to start their own label (after nobody would give Jay a deal), they tried to bring Jaz-O into the fold. Everybody signed their contracts for the new label venture except for Jaz-O.


He felt some kind of way about going from boss to being signed to his former protege, probably.



So the chips fell where they fell.



That's not Jay's fault. And he's not obligated to take care of everyone that he used to run with, any more than your'e obligated to take care of your former co-workers / business partners if you strike it rich, after you all parted ways.
 
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j.troup said:
And he's not obligated to take care of everyone that he used to run with, any more than your'e obligated to take care of your former co-workers / business partners if you strike it rich, after you all parted ways.
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This right here is real talk.

Jay offered Jaz the opportunity to come up right alongside the rest of them, if he had signed the line he probably wouldn't be doing that interview right there and this convo wouldn't be happening. Instead he let the contract slide and lost out on millions of dollars in potential revenue.

I am not a big fan of Jay, but in all honesty he tried to help the man by giving him a hand up not a hand out...he did his part and should feel no shame for how Jaz made his decision.
 
Fans dick ride Jay because he's rich, he can't do no wrong in their eyes...the truth is-there would be no Jay-Z without Jaz-O.
 
stokeI said:
Fans dick ride Jay because he's rich, he can't do no wrong in their eyes...the truth is-there would be no Jay-Z without Jaz-O.
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Just because dude gave him an opportunity doesn't mean he owes him a check for the rest of his life.


Dude is not responsible for what Jay has BECOME. He's only responsible for putting him on a few songs as a young'n. That's it.
 
j.troup said:
Just because dude gave him an opportunity doesn't mean he owes him a check for the rest of his life.


Dude is not responsible for what Jay has BECOME. He's only responsible for putting him on a few songs as a young'n. That's it.
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Jay was given the chance to see how the music industry works, and he was disgusted by the way these major labels treated Jaz after his single flopped, which led him to go independent and start his own label. He even wrote about in Decoded, the whole thing about Jaz taking Jigga and Irv Gotti to London when he was recording his album...
 
j.troup said:
"
You know I run track - try not to get lapped
People keep talking 'bout Hov left em flat
Try to re-write history, let's talk about facts
Dame made millions, even Jaz made some scraps
He could've made more but he ain't sign his contract
As far as street guys, we was dealing crack
That's just how the game goes, I don't owe nobody jack
Grown men want me to sit em on my lap
But I don't have a beard and Santa Claus ain't black
I repeat, you can't sit on my lap
I don't have a beard now get off my sack
Scream at me
"



-- Jay Z, What We Talkin Bout





When Jay-Z and Dame decided to start their own label (after nobody would give Jay a deal), they tried to bring Jaz-O into the fold. Everybody signed their contracts for the new label venture except for Jaz-O.


He felt some kind of way about going from boss to being signed to his former protege, probably.



So the chips fell where they fell.



That's not Jay's fault. And he's not obligated to take care of everyone that he used to run with, any more than your'e obligated to take care of your former co-workers / business partners if you strike it rich, after you all parted ways.
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I agree Jay Z is not obligated to anyone. Dame Dash walked away with 20 plus million when Rocafella split. Jaz-O is a different story. He introduced Jay Z to the game. Jay bit the flow, even made a similar rap name. Remember Nas' lyric in Ether. "From Sean Carter to Jay Z, damn you on Jaz's dick" I know my sentiments are unique. Most people are too selfish to give to others but I'm built from a different cloth. Once I amass a fortune of 100 million dollars, I'm set for life. I know enough about financial instruments to secure me and my sons future. I'd probably have a few more kids too. Jay Z is worth at least 200 million dollars. More than likely when he dies, they'll be a few hundred million that will go to his estate for his kids to fight over. I'm like Bill Gates on this one. Why leave a few hundred million to your kids so they can be lazy? Bill Gates entitles his kids to only a 25 million dollar inheritance and said you will not inherit my billions and be a rich snob. The whole family is into Philanthrophy including the kids. They are committed to giving to others. Why are only white liberals doing such philanthropic endeavors? We Blacks can do it on a smaller scale. I'd start with a pledge to Jaz-0 and his family just because Jaz O laid the foundation and just because Jaz O was there when Jay was eating grilled cheese sandwiches. If I am making 30 million dollars a year, you best believe I'm gonna take at least 10% and redistribute it to my peoples and loved ones. That's more of a socialist/ street drug dealer mindset. I'm not a pure capitalist. It's only a means to certain desired lifestyle for me but I understand it's flaws. You guys are thinking like Pure greedy capitalists. Of course, I dont expect you to share your millions.
Like I said, I probably wouldnt even talk to Jaz O but I'd just purchase a few annuities where he and his moms would receive payments. I rather do that than purchase a Bugatti or have a fleet Of Rolls Royces. If I can help a grood brother and his family escape the stress of living in the PJ's, why not. It's not like Jay Z can take all that money with him to his grave. White Philanthropists understand this concept because they have a better understanding of money in general. Black folks have a harder time parting with it because we had to overcome so much just to make the money. That's one of the advantages of having street influences. You dont look at wealth strictly from that selfish corporate mindset. Look at Big Meech, 50 Cent and Dame Dash, all former drug dealers all known for their generosity in an industry full of snakes.
 
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I agree Jay Z is not obligated to anyone. Dame Dash walked away with 20 plus million when Rocafella split. Jaz-O is a different story. He introduced Jay Z to the game. Jay bit the flow, even made a similar rap name. Remember Nas' lyric in Ether. "From Sean Carter to Jay Z, damn you on Jaz's dick" I know my sentiments are unique. Most people are too selfish to give to others but I'm built from a different cloth. Once I amass a fortune of 100 million dollars, I'm set for life. I know enough about financial instruments to secure me and my sons future. I'd probably have a few more kids too. Jay Z is worth at least 200 million dollars. More than likely when he dies, they'll be a few hundred million that will go to his estate for his kids to fight over. I'm like Bill Gates on this one. Why leave a few hundred million to your kids so they can be lazy? Bill Gates entitles his kids to only a 25 million dollar inheritance in and said you will not inherit my billions and be a rich snob. The whole family is into Philanthrophy including the kids. They are committed to giving to others. Why are only white liberals doing such philanthropic endeavors? We Blacks can do it on a smaller scale. I'd start with a pledge to Jaz-0 and his family just because Jaz O laid the foundation and just because Jaz O was there when Jay was eating grilled cheese sandwiches. If I am making 30 million dollars a year, you best believe I'm gonna take at least 10% and redistribute it to my peoples and loved ones. That's more of a socialist/ street drug dealer mindset. I'm not a pure capitalist. It's only a means to certain desired lifestyle for me but I understand it's flaws. You guys are thinking like Pure greedy capitalists. Of course, I dont expect you to share your millions.
Like I said, I probably wouldnt even talk to Jaz O but I'd just purchase a few annuities where he and his moms would receive payments. I rather do that than purchase a Bugatti or have a fleet Of Rolls Royces. If I can help a grood brother and his family escape the stress of living in the PJ's, why not. It's not like Jay Z can take all that money with him to his grave. White Philanthropists understand this concept because they have a better understanding of money in general.
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Better yet....why not give the man a job and let him earn his bread?
 
Pumpthrust said:
Better yet....why not give the man a job and let him earn his bread?
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He earned his bread when he put me on. He put me on being a good natured dude not expecting anything in return. This is his reward. That's why people's good intentions sometimes get rewarded later on in life. We all have gifts and talents in life. If my gift enables me to make alot of money, why not share it with my friends and family whose gift or talent may be something else. Life is so much more rewarding when its bigger than just your needs as an individual. Many professional athletes have bought homes and/or are paying monthly expenses for relatives and mentors that kept them on the straight and narrow. If a mentor introduced me to a profession that allowed me to amass a few hundred million, it's only right that I break bread with him and redistribute some of that income. It's no different than giving 10% to your church. I'm closely aligned with my community and loved ones even though I operate independently. I can never forget about those less fortunate even if I tried. You shouldnt mix family or friends with business. The business usually suffers. That's why I wouldnt insist on him working for the money. Now if he asked for a job, I try to find some type of position where he's not jeopardizing anything.
 
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Jay extended the hand of GRATITUDE and LOYALTY when he, Dame and Biggs started Rocafella.

JAZ-O DECLINED.

END OF STORY.


That man chose to walk his own path. You can't say "I decline your offer, but come back when you're worth half a billion dollars and make me a better offer".


#GTFOHWTBS



Jay only owes a few street guys at this point...that's Emory and Klein.

Both those guys did bids for Jay.


Word is, he's taking care of these guys.



That's it.
 
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