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    Question TripHop? / Drumstep? / HipHop?

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    sounds like hip hop but it does have the electric feel(mgmt)

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    I think hiphop is the something more based on lyrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3071 View Post
    I think hiphop is the something more based on lyrics.
    true the majority of hip hop is based around lyrics. There is although an underground scene where beat tapes without lyrics are very popular and many popular producers got there start.(J-Dilla has many of those still floating around to this day)

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    Hip hop nice one

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    Trip-hop

    BTW I just thought I'd add... Hip Hop is a culture comprised of four elements. MCing, DJing, B-Boying, and graffiti.

    Rap is the music within the culture of hip hop.
    Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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    I LOVE DRUMSTEP.
    Best genre imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macbeat View Post
    Trip-hop

    BTW I just thought I'd add... Hip Hop is a culture comprised of four elements. MCing, DJing, B-Boying, and graffiti.

    Rap is the music within the culture of hip hop.
    rap is like mcing and djaying combined imo because most of the older producers started as dj's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaMindBo View Post
    rap is like mcing and djaying combined imo because most of the older producers started as dj's.
    Well in my opinion, the American revolution never happened, neither did the moon landing. And I think Paris Hilton is a space lizard from Jupiter.

    See what I did there? Doesn't matter what a person's opinion is because some things are what they are.

    Hip-Hop History & Culture
    The Four Elements of Hiphop
    & The Events that shaped The Hiphop Music of Today

    Element 1: The DJ and Mixtapes The heart and Soul of HipHop:
    DJ's and Mixtapes were part of the heart and soul of Hiphop during its inception. Hip Hop started not with the MCs but rather with the DJ. It was the DJ who controlled the night, The DJ "spun "the tunes and kept the party Rocking. The DJ essentially was the Master Of Ceremonies... he was the MC. Hip Hop actually developed from Reggae Music (no not the otherway around as newbies would believe) In Jamaica and In Reggae the word DJ means to rap or talk to the crowd on the mic. and Selecta [of Music] is what they called what we consider a DJ. Many did both as did the Godfather of Hiphop DJ Kool Herc. Disc Jockeys for radio stations already had their names truncated down to just DJ and as DJ Kool Herc Did his fair share of Both Selecting and DJaying or as we know it DJing and MCing So, In America the Term For our Turntable warriors became forever embeded as DJ.
    The Beggining of DJs
    The Very First DJs appeared as early as the 1940's during World War II
    as they say "necessity is the mother of invention" The need for uplifting entertainment during the war lead to the invention of the DJ as an entertainer. DJs were actually a cheaper and more efficiant means of entertaining the Troops overseas.


    "During WWII, persons armed with a turntable, an armful of records, and a basic amplifier would entertain troops in mess halls, spinning Glen Miller, the Andrews sisters, and Benny Goodman. It was much easier than sending an entire band overseas." -History of Turntablism
    At first DJs were just live replacements for jukeboxes which in turn were the replacements for Coverbands. The DJ Was a perfect medium between utilizing a jukebox system and hiring an expensive cover band. It was also easier and faster to set up a club for a DJ than it was to do the same for an entire band. People flocked to clubs that had DJs instead of juke boxes since the DJ Could Essentially "program the Music on the Fly"
    Developement of Reggae Music
    Ska and Reggae Music which had been developing in Jamaica since before 1957 started evolving when King Tubby's gained access to creating "dub Plates" cheap lower quality accetate film records. He started removing vocals in certain key spots so sound sytem crews could insert their own Names, Toasts and Chants. This act of Chanting and toasting over vocal breaks became known as rapping, or papping to the crowd. As such Reggae became the predecessor to Hiphop and Rap Music. Toasting became quite popular in the Dancehalls and clubs of Jamaica and eventually made its way to America where in the Bronx a DJ By The Name of Kool Herc introduced this jamaican heritage to a new and eager crowd.
    (Side Note: As far as Jamaican record-buyers are concerned, the word reggae was coined on a 1968 Pyramid dance single, "Do the Reggay (sic)," by Toots and the Maytals. )

    DJ Kool Herc The Father Of Hip-Hop!
    "Hiphop... after dark.... They Used to Do it out in the park"
    Jamaican born DJ Kool Herc moved to New York in the late 1960's and brought with him the Jamaican tradition of "toasting", which involved reciting improvised rhymes over instrumental sections of reggae records. Since reggae music wasn't so well recieved in America at the time, Kool Herc used a unique playlist of R&B, Soul,Funk, and Obscure Disco Records. But he didn't just play them! During certain points of his sets he would play only the best part of each. These "best parts" would later become known as the break.

    "on Every Record there exists that one part, usually only a few seconds long that just had the most energy, the craziest drums, I thought to myself If I could Just extend that piece"
    Herc used twin turntables and cut back and forth between two seperate records to create a new sound known as the Break. By mixing back and forth between the two copies the break could be doubled tripled or extended indefinately. Deconstructing and reconstructing music and other found sounds with the turntables, the foundations of Beat Juggling.This was to become the foundation for hip hop, sampling to create new music with exsisting music and also the beggining of the DJ as a musician (or Turntablist).
    The word hip-hop itself was derived from the act of hip-hoppin on the turntables from one turntable to the other to create "The Breaks"
    Element 2: Break-Dancing
    "Breakers" (Breakdancers) loved the break and would use those moments to really showcase their skills. Whenever the "breaks" would come on so would their energy hence the name break-dancing. (though my momma thought it was cause "they're gonna break their neck dancing like that")
    During the break Herc would also chant things like "B-Boys Go Down" "Throw your hands in the air/And wave'em like ya just don't care!". This type of crowd pleaser was known as "rapping" to the crowd. At that time rap was not yet known as 'rap' in America but rather called 'MCing'. He later turned his attention to DJing and let two friends Coke La Rock and (the orginial) Clark Kent handle the mic. This was rap music's first MC team. They became known as Kool Herc and the Herculoids.

    "So what I did here was go right to the 'yoke'. I cut off all anticipation and played the beats. I'd find out where the break in the record was at and prolong it and people would love it."- DJ Kool Herc

    To this day there is still speculation as to what Herc Meant by the term B-Boy some say it stood for "Bronx Boy", others "Boogie Boy", But the most common and favored is still "Break Boy"

    Kung Fu & Dancing Merge To Become Breakdancing!
    Break Dancing another element of hiphop developed partially with New Yorks afficionation with the 3' Oclock channel 5 Kung FU theater flicks.. as many of the drunken and monkey styles of kung fu incorporated intricate ground fighting movements like windmills, caterpillar rolls, worms and kip-ups which the Breakers developed into a dancing artform.

    The Break Loop!
    Grandmaster Flash (shown Above) perfected the looping of breaks and beats by adding a headphone cuing system This allowed him to hear the song in his headphones without the crowd hearing it. Now he could insert breaks and loop them seamlessly by backcueing the record (backspinning the record while listening to it) and repeating the process he could extend the break perfectly and endlessly.
    The Third Element Of Hiphop: The MC
    The First Hiphop Albums Were Mixtapes!
    The MCs begin to gain skill and recognition for their rhyming ability and their ability to control and move the crowds with their chants. At this time DJ's begin putting together the first mixed tapes. Mixes and blends of the days great music selections and rare grooves. Party mix-tapes...essentially just recordings of parties they did onto cassettes. People payed upwards of $20 to get their hands on these gems. They contained rhymes and raps as well as chants and breaks. So, long before the first commercially released Hiphop Album, there were mix tapes. The mix tapes were the Albums... since the record companies weren't ready to accept hiphop as a proper form of music...or at least not as a profitable one. But soon the explosive growth of the Hiphop Movement would catch their attention.

    The Fourth Element Of Hiphop: Graffiti Art
    Between Vandalism and Art Lies the Art of Graffiti!
    Since its conception Graffiti has remained on the borderline between Vandalism and Pure Art.
    The notion of it being vandalism stems from the Graffiti artist's choice of Canvas- Other peoples walls and property. As well as from the fact that often times too many artists can ruin a canvas and sometimes a not so good artist comes along and ruins the canvas. (non skilled Graffiti Artists etc)
    Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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