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    Quote Originally Posted by IanMathews View Post
    With my band, I definitely make more money from shows than sales.
    why would people pay for music that they can't even keep (live) as opposed to music that they CAN keep, and literally play EVERYDAY???

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    Quote Originally Posted by [F_or_DEAF] View Post
    why would people pay for music that they can't even keep (live) as opposed to music that they CAN keep, and literally play EVERYDAY???
    Well they buy the CDs we sell for a few bucks, but people who come to our shows multiple times ain't buying the same disc every time, ya know? So if we have 3 shows in a month, its not likely we're selling a lot of CDs by the 3rd show. But we've recieved "guaranteed money" from the club every single time - either a set amount, or our share of the door money (which is still a lot more than the merch table gets us).
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    Quote Originally Posted by [F_or_DEAF] View Post
    why would people pay for music that they can't even keep (live) as opposed to music that they CAN keep, and literally play EVERYDAY???
    I don't know. But the movie theaters still seem to be doing alright.

    Or, why would someone pay for music to play everyday when they can go on Youtube and play it everyday for free?

    There are many variables, but what it all breaks down is just something to do. You go to a concert to get out of the house.

    Or, maybe your like me and go to a concert to support artists. I'll be the first to admit I do not buy CDs. I HATE CDs. But if I like the artist I will go to their show and maybe buy a shirt if I really like them.

    Lets be honest here, the only reason CDs are still in existence (and largely losing relevance due to online music sharing) is to show people you have new music so they can be interested enough to come to your concert and buy merch.

    Besides, as far as music goes, it's hard to beat a great live performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inverted314 View Post
    I don't know. But the movie theaters still seem to be doing alright
    that's actually a really good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inverted314 View Post
    the only reason CDs are still in existence is to show people you have new music so they can be interested enough to come to your concert and buy merch
    are those cd's that you're talking about being GIVEN AWAY or SOLD?

    seems like MERCHANDISE SALES are just paying of the production costs / overhead of CD-DUPLICATION...

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    Quote Originally Posted by '[F_or_DEAF

    are those cd's that you're talking about being GIVEN AWAY or SOLD?

    seems like MERCHANDISE SALES are just paying of the production costs / overhead of CD-DUPLICATION...
    Nobody is giving away CDs anymore. At least not around here. Nobodies won't even give you their demo for free lol.
    But yes, basically the CD sales should (hopefully... lol) cover the production of the album and if there is a little left over for gas money and a pizza then they did good I imagine. In the hardcore scene it's weird.... there's literally like 3 or 4 producers that handle EVERYBODY. It's VERY different form the hip-hop world. It's essentially an oligopoly. These bands tour, then go to the studio where they write and record the album on the spot, usually for 2-3 weeks where they will LIVE at the producers house and do the album. After that back on the road. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.

    One of the big guys is Joey Sturgis out in Indiana. There's a million videos of "studio updates" on youtube of bands recording at his place that you can look up if you want, but have a look at this discography. These labels sign bands and run them through like a car wash. Pretty good niche to be in if you're a producer though...

    Joey Sturgis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A couple others are Erik Ron and Will Putney, but Joey is probably the most well known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inverted314 View Post
    Joey Sturgis, Erik Ron, Will Putney
    not to play the race card; but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by [F_or_DEAF] View Post
    not to play the race card; but...
    It comes with the genre of music. Rock and roll (specifically metal) has always been white people music. Of course people of all races participate but it's a real niche group of music.
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    a far as i know artist today get the majority of their money from live shows, not so much cd sales. or am i wrong ?

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    I think its just a cycle and each perspective of music plays hand in hand with the others. Shows do generate the majority of a bands/artists income, but no one goes to shows on a whim, they usually want to see a band they are familiar with. But to gain interest of fans, bands/artists release albums. to gain interest in the album, they release singles. So to say that no longer making albums makes sense does not make sense. Also, there are fans who may not be able to make it to shows so albums are the next best thing.

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    having an album to tour with is a great idea - having a collection of singles labled as an ep also works though so a career on singles isnt bad

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