deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup
Moderator
Rocafella was built with E, Jaz, Dame, Biggs, Freeze, Sauce, and Jay. It wasn't any "leaders". In an attewmpt not to speak wrong...I'll attempt to break this down.Dame gets a lot of co-signs...
Even Russell Simmons had to give it to him.
He has the education and a hustler mentality.. not too mention his crafty than a motherfuger....
Shocked?
Shouldn't be...
He's still revelevant as you can see from the thread and the rumors. People still watching him and listening. That's all he needs.
As far as Jay-Z making him or vice versa... the student learns from the master..... figure out who was who....
I know one thing Jay had to learn about the business from being in the collective. Dame already had a commerce degree.
If Dame so much needed Jay ...he would of faded away. Or he would be struggling to stay up like the rest of State Property. Or maybe he'd be like Memphis Bleek?!?!?! At least he seems to know his place. LOL
Selfishness made folk drive everyone else away. Then they drove each other away.
No one person created Rocafella. No one person involved owes their success to another.
There was another time when Beans and Cam ran sections of Roc. None of these guys single handedly built any empire. It's apparent when you see how far from grace they all fall once seperated. The only artist Jay can make big is himself.
Rihanna wasn't his artist.
Teairra Mari was. J. Cole? Tru Life? Peedi...Peedi?(Peedi Crakk, whatever he changed his name to)? Aztec?
Both Dame and Jay capitalized on making themselves look the "mogul" and be compared to folk like Diddy, Baby/Slim, Suge, J. Prince, ell, even Dee/Wah, Irv Gotti. But in the end, they always needed empires behind them. Kanye West made Kanye West. Dame Dash just had a little more faith in him than Jay. Kanye carried the Roc in it's last days as a collective, and even dame thought of him as no type of priority, he just supported him because Dame jumped behind every idea that walked through the door.
Neither of these guys are supermen of the business world as far as running a label. Anyone given an opportunity and being able to capitalize on it can be the next Dame. Even better. Clue started off in them Roc offices. Took what he learned, linked with Skane, and Desert Storm ain't never gone bankrupt.
Jay the artist is top food chain. Rocawear was a solid business venture. But Rocafella records under the split control of Jay and Dame was destined to fail. When others were involve before the 2 egos were left to clash, it was a force, they brought it down effortlessly.
Last edited: