That's the point I'm making, I'll say again, JADED.
People who can't admit "Krank Dat" by Soulja Boy was a huge hip hop hit record(didn't say timeless)won't do so because of their jaded opinion. Someone "biased" would have no choice but to agree and have to throw in the fact they still hate the record.
In order for a song to be "timeless" it has one and only one criteria to follow. Be old as hell, and still have relevance today. You can't say Stevie wonders entire discog from 1970-84 is "timeless" and the song "Thriller" is not without being wrong. Lol. Your "opinion" is lost in the example of "what is vs. what isn't".
Again, "Thriller" get's more spins in 2014 than album fillers from Stevies say..."Hotter Than Summer(Edit: Hotter than July, I wasn't walking Yet, gimme a break)" album got the year the album was released!
Beyond separation by FACT, everything else is left to opinion. So, yeah, according to every BBQ, BDay party, Family reunion I've ever been to since it's release, "Cupid Shuffle" is timeless. I never said I believed it was personally. I even went on to say I don't know the words to or who sung "Sweet Home Alabama', yet I'm well aware "Cupid Shuffle" is not a "timeless classic" anywhere in the realm of that song.
So follow me here...IF MY OPINION WAS JADED....from my experience with no numbers to back my claim, I'd say "Cupid Shuffle"(or every Stevie Wonder Album) is a timeless classic, but I don't think "Sweet Home Alabama"(or MJ's Thriller song) is......
I even used "T.R.O.Y." as an example. I know every word to that song, myself and my friends can reference so much of our lives with hip hop from that era, but while it's a "timeless hood classic", I can't even call that a "known record" in pop culture.
Again, JADED opinions make you inable to realize whether you feel the song took any work to produce or not, "The Macarena" isn't going anywhere. It's still played today at parties, clubs, on the radio(usually with a satirical twist), "Krank Dat Soulja Boy" not so much, but same bracket. You still get hammer pant references. I don't think any of that stuff is classic, but I can understand someone else thinking otherwise.
So...while I can leave it to opinion where the cut off for a timeless record is and can respect everything mentioned in this post EXCEPT "Sweet home Alabama" or "Thriller" not being "timeless classics"...you cannot tell me anything else mentioned in this thread are "timeless classics" and those 2 records are not without having a...JADED OPINION.
How can anyone not agree with that?
And to clarify, IMO, any song is a timeless classic TO YOU if you keep playing it. But in reference to what Kid Rock was talking, nothing but "Thriller" and "Sweet Home Alabama" that i've discussed in this post.