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    good info

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    It sounds good that you did not have any planes but started to publish music its very nice and good
    that you have release some of boys in the market and they got some popularity and attention . and
    you register your work with the copyright office is quite nice. all best

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    Can anyone inbox some good advice for good promotion for new artist or how to build a big buzz

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    cool. Thanks

    ---------- Post added at 07:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:19 AM ----------

    This info is very valuable

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackswagadams View Post
    Can anyone inbox some good advice for good promotion for new artist or how to build a big buzz
    No.

    No one here is successful, so no one here can help you.

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    Try selling your music on stock music sites. You retain control at all times and money comes in. Headache free.

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    Very good post full of information. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by trezza View Post
    Yes, I'm sure it happens all the time. There's no reason a publisher couldn't sell to another publisher. Take an example:

    Joe writes a song "Joe's song". He records it, sings on it, and sells it himself. It gets on the radio, people buy the sheet music, and someone uses it on a TV show. It earns $100 as an example. It breaks down like this:

    Radio earnings $10
    Sheet music $10
    CD Sales $40
    TV Show $40

    Joe gets $100.

    Now let's break it into more players. Suppose Joe sells his own CD, sheet music and gets on the radio through his own publishing company, but gets on tv through another publisher (Come again publishing Co) which specializes in TV shows using a nonexclusive license. That publisher takes 50% of the publishing earnings for any deal it makes.

    Songwriter Joe radio ($5) + sheet ($5) + CD ($20) tv ($20)
    Joe's Publishing Co radio (5) + sheet ($5) + CD ($20) tv ($10)
    Come again Publishing Co. tv ($10)

    Joe makes $90. (Joe + Joe's Publishing Co.)
    Come again Publishing Co. makes $10


    Keep going? Okay. Suppose Joe just likes to write songs, so he writes them and signs with a publisher to publish them for him, called Easy Money publishing Co. who deals with everything and gets their own deal with Come again publishing Co to get on TV splitting what they earn 50%.

    Songwriter Joe radio ($5) + sheet ($5) + CD ($20) tv ($20)
    Easy Money Publishing Co radio (5) + sheet ($5) + CD ($20) tv ($10)
    Come again Publishing Co. tv ($10)

    Joe makes $50.
    Easy Money Publishing Co makes $40
    Come again Publishing Co. makes $10

    One last time. Let's suppose the same scenario but an indie band is hired to perform the songs for the sound recording, called Fat Chance. They perform a live act throughout the country. The venue owners report $10 worth of live performance revenues to Joe's PRO, but pays the band $100 for the shows.

    Radio earnings $10
    Sheet music $10
    CD Sales $40
    TV Show $40
    Live Shows $110 ($100+$10)

    Songwriter Joe radio ($5) + sheet ($5) + CD ($20) + tv ($20) + live ($5)
    Easy Money Publishing Co radio (5) + sheet ($5) + CD ($20) tv ($10) + live ($5)
    Come again Publishing Co. tv ($10)
    Fat Chance live ($100)

    Joe makes $55.
    Easy Money Publishing Co makes $45
    Come again Publishing Co. makes $10
    Fat Chance earns $100

    Check it out. If you are a band and you don't write your own songs you don't earn anything off the CD or radio or TV unless you negotiate part of the publishing (points). Same goes for producers. Your only hope of earning anything is playing live.

    Songwriters and publishers earn revenues from live acts only if they are reported to the PRO. The venue pays an annual fee and that pot is divided up into all the different players based on what is reported to the PRO. There is a lot of money being made at the live level only a tiny fraction of that makes it back to the songwriter/publisher.
    Thanks a lot for breaking this down! Really! Google it and four rows down here we are!

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