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    this is absolutely amazing. what song are we talking about? who's the artist?

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    You've got to read the original post. He/she isn't telling, and for now, I think that's wise, from a legal perspective (although the voyeurist in me wants to know what's going on!). No use adding litigation from a reverse bass ackwards lawsuit to the salt already in the wound...

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    Tell us please

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhythmgj View Post
    You've got to read the original post. He/she isn't telling, and for now, I think that's wise, from a legal perspective (although the voyeurist in me wants to know what's going on!). No use adding litigation from a reverse bass ackwards lawsuit to the salt already in the wound...

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    lol oh believe me when I say I know they aren't inclined towards telling us. just had to try.

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    doesnt copyright only cost like $35. why would you copyright be fore releasing on the net? or is this useless somehow also?

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    Worst case scenario.... you could always just put it in your resumé

    "Music sampled by major acts such as <xyz>"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huge Beatz View Post

    I've had music stolen that was used on a national commercial. Sucked big time. I had a musicologist tell me, "did they steal your music: probably. Will it hold up in court? Probably not." So I let it go.
    Oh man that sucks.

    I've had music taken and used without my permission (Fox 31). It took 5 months to get my backpay in line. What were you missing for a strong case?
    Fox had to provide proof of transaction, and or contact stating they had the right to use the material.. which they couldn't present.

    I had provide proof of ownership and a bunch of signed affidavits stating that i was unaware of the usage.

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    Copyright is not "useless." And yes, you should take care of it (paperwork) before releasing anything, but all is not lost if that isn't the case. A "copyright" exists on _any_ creation that you take out of your mind and put into a fixed form (writing, photo, image, muisc on tape, CD, digital file, MIDI file, etc., etc., etc.), as soon as you do that (put it in a tangible, fixed form). The law recognizes this, _but_, it's harder to prove without the simple to file paperwork, and there are other benefits, so yeah, you should file.

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    a simple way to show "some" type of proof is to upload your beat to youtube. since they are a third party and have no affiliation with you, it could help AND it also had a time stamp on it, meaning it tells you when you uploaded the song. Is the creation date of the project file worth anything? is this not enough evidence to prove your credibility? just asking cause i dont know much.

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    It definitely would help, but you'd need more than just that, I'd imagine (I've studied a fair amount of copyright law, but thankfully have never had to deal with an actual lawsuit). People talk about "poor man's copyright" (mailing it to yourself, and the various merits or detriments of that approach), and other ways to "prove" ownnership. Best thing to do is file, but if for some reason you don't yet, keep all of your project files and masters archived and dated, have some kind of time-stamped upload somewhere (even a private storage site), and make sure you at least mark all CD/DVD archive copies and anything you give out with proper copyright info (which is pretty easy to tag in files nowadays too): "Blah Blah Song #1", (c) & (p) 2012, Joe the Beat-Maker (your name here), All Rights Reserved. SoundCloud let's you upload and select those tagging options right on your upload page.

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