boombapdame
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Most to all relationships in the music industry are symbiotic, I've always been and am curious about if it is possible for someone to own 100% of their creative output in the form of publishing, etc.
100% Ownership
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bandcoach
Zukatoku - Mod Scientist
It depends on your own support structures and your perspective on how to do it.
An example of someone who managed to do that over their entire career is Frank Zappa.
A lot of it comes back to having money to start the process and keep control of the process, so working shows is a given, unless you come from money or make a lot early on through another job (say stockmarket)
An example of someone who managed to do that over their entire career is Frank Zappa.
A lot of it comes back to having money to start the process and keep control of the process, so working shows is a given, unless you come from money or make a lot early on through another job (say stockmarket)
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Bloody Glove
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Yes, you would have to be the initiator of the project.
Rapper's/singer's/producer's can be compensated(PAID UP FRONT..lump sum, deferred pay or salary) as 1099 sub-contractor's. They do a service and are paid for it. You're essentially buying their right's while they are dirt cheap. No back end gross or net profit sharing at all, unless detailed as deferred compensation. So a fully filled out split sheet with signature's would reflect that all parties where paid in full for their services, leaving you as the sole owner. So your accounting records need to reflect this too. They would be listed as another expense line item. Not all will take this deal...but MOST do.
This is generally how most producer's/artist are operating in the industry..especially people who don't own their own label/prod co and are okay with being a ghostwriter or a ghost producer within someone elses company. It's lovely for those who put the footwork in and fund their own projects.
If you want to own 100% of your asset's, that has to be on your mind and reflected in your paperwork/records at all times. Keep detailed records. You have to be the boss. You keep what you demand.
Never sell/giveaway your right's in exchange compensation and always reimburse artist for work.
Bandcoach is right, you have to have a pool of $$$ from another source..that's basically your start-up capital!
Rapper's/singer's/producer's can be compensated(PAID UP FRONT..lump sum, deferred pay or salary) as 1099 sub-contractor's. They do a service and are paid for it. You're essentially buying their right's while they are dirt cheap. No back end gross or net profit sharing at all, unless detailed as deferred compensation. So a fully filled out split sheet with signature's would reflect that all parties where paid in full for their services, leaving you as the sole owner. So your accounting records need to reflect this too. They would be listed as another expense line item. Not all will take this deal...but MOST do.
This is generally how most producer's/artist are operating in the industry..especially people who don't own their own label/prod co and are okay with being a ghostwriter or a ghost producer within someone elses company. It's lovely for those who put the footwork in and fund their own projects.
If you want to own 100% of your asset's, that has to be on your mind and reflected in your paperwork/records at all times. Keep detailed records. You have to be the boss. You keep what you demand.
Never sell/giveaway your right's in exchange compensation and always reimburse artist for work.
Bandcoach is right, you have to have a pool of $$$ from another source..that's basically your start-up capital!
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Majorproducer24
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Well truth be told you own 100% of your publishing from the start of your song and or beats and you own the copyright also. Producers and songwriters and artist give up their publishing rights when they agree to advances in publishing deals, or management deals, or production deals, and so on. This is why I advise producers or artist to allow a split between you and the publishing company where you at least have 50 percent or higher control and earnings of your publishing. Most people dont understand publishing so they just take a check because they need to feed their fam. Also you have to watch the clause in your contract about the company owning your image (your producer name) because they can get royalties off that also. So yeah you already own your publishing. Its just that when you sign with a major they get all that and more. Most producers just get production fees and that is it. It is imperative that you build a catalog of songs and beats and start your own publishing company. And when someone comes around wanting a piece. You negotiate where you have the upper hand and control of your catalog.... if not .....walk away.
