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    (Auto)Tuning Problem - Nothing New Under the Sun

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    The Greeks knew about this problem and it all comes down to maths. It isn't possible to arrange the 8 or 12 notes that make up western music, into equal sized steps - ie separated by a consistent number of Hz.
    So compromises have to be made and the human ear is good at this. Orchestral players and choral singers learn to blend their sound so that it tunes with their colleagues and talk endlessly about "colour", "temperature" etc. And this is just one of the things that makes music the transcendental mystery based on hard, unyielding physics that it is.
    Electronic "instruments" can't do any of this; they have to be set to play a specific frequency for a specific note. And they will play that frequency perfectly without variation whenever called on. They can't listen (yet - things develop all the time...) to what's going on around them.
    But I think what people hate about Autotune is the way it has been used to produce a "beating" effect where the harmonics of a note are played about with so that some frequency elements of the note are allowed to wander producing that (to me) unattractive warbling or dweeble sound.
    I think people on this forum probably know how to use Autotune so that it does its intended job without producing that unpleasant (again IMHO) warbling.
    We need to listen (LOL) to them more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briesmith View Post
    Electronic "instruments" can't do any of this
    I'll just need to pick up on this - there are plenty of electronic instruments that aren't perfectly in tune or don't stay in tune - vintage analog synths, for example. I know what you meant by it, but something like "modern digital" is closer to the truth than just "electronic".

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    Fair Point

    Yes, this is right. Current solid state, digital equipment where notes are produced by dividing up frequencies from oscillators is what I had in mind. Valve gear and stuff like that where vibration, heat and temperature played a major role in performance would have had a lot more variation in its outputs.

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    If autotune is "cheating then we might as well throw arpeggiators and Trance gates in the mix as well...

    Its all music...
    Last edited by Isaac Rife; 08-30-2012 at 04:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac Rife View Post
    If autotune is "cheating then we might as well throw arpeggiators and Trance gates in the mix as well...

    Its all music...

    Well said. I'm not that great of a piano player, but once a beat is done you'd think Yanni did the pianos thanks to modern technology.

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    Stephen Hawkins was dope with autotune waaay before Madonna!
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    because you can take a 5 years old and make it sound good on a record

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMOE View Post
    AUTOTUNE has ruined the image of being a true artist....hands down
    I will respectfully disagree. Also, I will add that this statement is not true. We refer to any pitch correction software as AUTOTUNE, even though it is a brand (like we call tissue "Kleenex", etc.).
    The fact of the matter is, whether it is T-Pain sounding, warbled, or has a slow attack and un-recognizable, pitch correction is more than likely used on any record that you hear on the radio, any genre of music any station.
    This could be Autotune.. or Melodyne..or Logic's Pitch correction tool... It could be one note, one verse, or the entire song. The best vocalists can sound pitch perfect in person, yet not be flawless.

    We have the technology available to us now that we can correct one syllable if we have to. It's not about what's cool or what's popular, pitch correction is used every day in every studio with every artist, and you probably don't even know it or recognize it in a song...because you are not supposed to!
    Last edited by Mr Million Beats; 03-26-2013 at 02:35 PM.
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    Yes it is over used and being used in a different was than it was intended. But in the end i feel like do what you feel sounds good. as an artist you have the right toexpress yourself any way you feel . You cant please everyone, so please yourself.

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