AUTOTUNE has ruined the image of being a true artist....hands down![]()
AUTOTUNE has ruined the image of being a true artist....hands down![]()
autotune takes away (some of) the need to be vocally talented... all vocals have some effects on them but until autotune you still needed to be able to sing and hit/hold a note live... autotune is useful and sounds cool in some situations but if you depend on it because you can't sing don't accept any acoustic type live gigs anywhere...lol
People forget how important just having a great singing voice is too. Mary J Blige has a great singing voice. She goes out of tune sometimes but her voice is so great and it sometimes actually sounds ok and they release it. I cannot think of any songs off top like that but it happens.
autotune is sometimes used an an effect that they want not because they cannot sing. Example when T Pain did it he was doing it to try and emulate what Roger Trottman did in the 80s with a talk box but didn't know what it was or how to do it and tried autotune and got an effect he thought was cool. Cher too. Autotune can be as subtle, creative or extreme as you want it to be. Its not autotune's fault that a lotofpeople who use it are not creative.
Let's be honest, any vocal on a record is not "your real voice"... Reverb= fake acoustics added to delay or widen a vocal (not natural) EQ= used to adjust the high/mid/low end frequencies of a sound (not natural), gate= used to control the volume of the signal, or reduce any additional noise picked up (not natural)..The list goes on and on with any plugin you use. If you are using a plugin on a vocal, then the vocal instantly becomes "un-natural". So the same goes with autotune, as mentioned in my first post. Not everything has to sound like T-Pain when using that effect
I get what you're saying, but this isn't exactly true.
1. Every space has a natural reverb/reflections. We remove it artificially by placing someone in a booth. And then SIMULATE what is natural by adding it back in. That is done to gain control of the amount/type of reverb -not simply to ADD REVERB. That's why most reverb presets are named after PLACES that EXIST.
2. The bones in your jaw and the shape of your skull is a reverb chamber that actually does add all the effects we add to recorded vocals artificially. Filters, stereo (widening or cutting), EQ and yes, reverb. That is why a persons voice sounds differently in their own head than when recorded. That's why you need awareness of what your voice is doing to control it upon exit.
3. A person sliding in and out of pitch is actually NATURAL SOUNDING. Pitch correction is usually reserved for missed notes- like when the singer flats out or can't nail a certain key. It's not usually done over the whole vocal track because that would be unnatural.
4. It's a small amount of cement glue verse having the singer go at it again and again and again. Or when you cannot go back and redo anything and you have to work with what you have.
5. If people are hearing you use Autotune and it wasn't done purposely for effect, then it's being used too often or too much (as in strength or % of correction). If you are aiming for seamless results and got them right, NOBODY would mention autotune.
This does and doesn't apply to other instruments.
When synthesizers keep perfect pitch they begin to sound...well....digital....overly controlled.
If your drums are doing things a real drummer can't do then they also will sound unnatural..
If your composition requires 12 fingers to play, people assume a production technique is involved.
If your composition requires the stamina of Hercules-Van-Beethoven to play, people will assume an arp was used.
That's because our ears are educated enough to know that absolute perfection is unnatural.
Use machines too much and people will hear the gears grinding.
That's the real issue hear, I mean here.
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Straight to the Point: Autotune casts a shadow on singers who can actually sing because a non-singer can make a hit record and cause the "talented singer" to be forgotten, pushed back by their label, or just seem too ordinary because they don't bring some new swag to the table. That said, I'm not a hater of autotune...I love all things technology. But it does change the game by making the market bigger (non-singers can now "sing") and thus harder to compete enough to make a "living" from music.
i went through a program and got certified through antares for it. but that being said, to me it's kinda cheating and i would not mind at all if i never touched the program again. not knocking or saying it's a sin to use it. i just like natural voices without the need of pitch correction, especially when it comes to broads... i have a lot more respect for early diana ross and mariah than rihanna and lady gaga. i know we're in the digital age and technology is different, but i'm just saying...
Last edited by L_Houdini; 05-18-2012 at 11:46 AM.
Yea I have respect for them too, but TPain was a hit, regardless of the artificial help....it sounded good and futuristic. 99% of Vanilla Extract is artificial chemical, but they don't stop people from buying cookies, pancakes, and other good. The same can be applied to music, it didn't stop people from buying albums. Besides the programmers who made it worked hard on the technology, so if you're not gonna give the artist respect, kudos to Antares for changing the game.
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