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    Why is Autotune hated by So Many PPL??? Must Read..

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    I get pissed off when non-industry people will say "Oh, that's Autotuned".. or "That singer can't sing, it's just computers doing that"... I think that it is a slap in the face to not only the artists, but especially to all of us producers that try to make the vocals sound flawless.

    I am an avid user of both Autotune and Melodyne (Autotune for demos, Melodyne for final mixes). What people don't understand is, Autotune doesn't have to be the "T-Pain" effect, nor was it created or intended to cause that effect on vocals. If used in moderation, autotune can be a very effective pitch corrector and you can't even notice it is applied to the vocal, yet it has made all of the corrections needed.

    I understand the robotic "T-Pain" sound got old to people really quick, but you can't blame Autotune or any pitch correction software for that. It was a fad, and is still sometimes heard in club/house/pop songs today. But if you use Autotune for what it is intended to do, you will get a good correction on your pitchy vocal without getting the "warbles" or "robots" people seem to think it creates.

    So the next time someone says "That singer sucks, they use Autotune and their vocals are "Computerized", slap them with some baby powder and tell them to do some research, as their nerdy "cool" singer that sings about trees uses the same damn effects as Britney Spears...

    To read the rest of my article, visit How To Use Autotune- The CORRECT Way


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    People don't care enough to look into what our tools do and why should they? I wouldn't even tell people its autotuned. Just use it and get on with making music. Its a correction tool that was at time used to create a cool effect nothing more nothing less.
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    I think it depends on how much you use the tool rather than why. If your using it the entire time then your obviously not confident enough to use your real voice. If its just for the effect in a little bit of the song, that's just creativity.

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    Xabition, with all do respect, that's not the point. Whether I tell people something is autotuned or not, people who have never stepped foot in a studio, or have have never experienced a recording session, constantly talk about how this should be done to a song or how this shouldn't be used in a song. My point is, that I don't tell accountants how to manage money, nor do I argue with a lawyer as to how the current structure of the justice system is. So I don't think everyday people have a valid voice in the production process of a song. Sure, everyone has their opinion, but it doesn't mean much when you are ignorant to the subject. I don't lose sleep over it, but it is something I hear at least once a day when I tell people that I do audio production.

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    I think it depends on how much you use the tool rather than why. If your using it the entire time then your obviously not confident enough to use your real voice. If its just for the effect in a little bit of the song, that's just creativity.
    Let's be honest, any vocal on a record is not "your real voice"... Reverb= fake acoustics added to delay or widen a vocal (not natural) EQ= used to adjust the high/mid/low end frequencies of a sound (not natural), gate= used to control the volume of the signal, or reduce any additional noise picked up (not natural)..The list goes on and on with any plugin you use. If you are using a plugin on a vocal, then the vocal instantly becomes "un-natural". So the same goes with autotune, as mentioned in my first post. Not everything has to sound like T-Pain when using that effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Million Beats View Post
    Xabition, with all do respect, that's not the point. Whether I tell people something is autotuned or not, people who have never stepped foot in a studio, or have have never experienced a recording session, constantly talk about how this should be done to a song or how this shouldn't be used in a song. My point is, that I don't tell accountants how to manage money, nor do I argue with a lawyer as to how the current structure of the justice system is. So I don't think everyday people have a valid voice in the production process of a song. Sure, everyone has their opinion, but it doesn't mean much when you are ignorant to the subject. I don't lose sleep over it, but it is something I hear at least once a day when I tell people that I do audio production.
    You're talking about Hipster Arrogance, just ignore it. Its not like those retards know anything about music production, they're just talking shit cause their best friend said the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Million Beats View Post
    Xabition, with all do respect, that's not the point. Whether I tell people something is autotuned or not, people who have never stepped foot in a studio, or have have never experienced a recording session, constantly talk about how this should be done to a song or how this shouldn't be used in a song. My point is, that I don't tell accountants how to manage money, nor do I argue with a lawyer as to how the current structure of the justice system is. So I don't think everyday people have a valid voice in the production process of a song. Sure, everyone has their opinion, but it doesn't mean much when you are ignorant to the subject. I don't lose sleep over it, but it is something I hear at least once a day when I tell people that I do audio production.
    I understand what you mean but that's just not the world we live in. Everyone is opinionated in the world we live in which is why I say keep it on a need to know basis. I remember when people used to look down on you for making beats on computers and tell you that you needed a Triton then you turnaround 4 years later and everyone is making beats on a computer and everyone looks at you like an idiot for buying a new Motif. Its just how the world is. Its easier not to tell those people those things and keep those things amongst those of us with similar interests. I used to get annoyed when my wife said stuff like that. Now I just don't tell her about my music stuff really.
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    Even without being abused people view the use of Autotune as cheating because as far as they are concerned it makes talent irrelevant, they know that given the choice between a fat ugly chick who can really sing and an attractive skinny chick who can't that record companies would have a preference for Autotuning the attractive chick.

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    2 Words: LIL WAYNE

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    I know, I know.. We are talking about Autotune, I get that. But you can't honestly say that EVERY vocal on the radio is not manipulated by pitch correction, whether it be autotune, Melodyne, or any other software. You are naive to think that a singer has a "natural" voice on the radio. Labels, nor your "super" producers would allow it. I'm telling you, whether it's Mariah, Whitney (RIP), or Christina, they all have pitch correction added, as our natural tones and frequencies are not perfect, even if they sound like it. Sonically, it isn't possible, except through software. So Lil Wayne=yes..but I'm talking about a PITCH CORRECTOR. and that's the difference between making flawless vocals, and making "robotic", or "T-PAIN" vocals.

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    I would say because its an unpleasant sound and its been overused, even in its intended way for way too long now. its easy to hear on almost every album in a bad way. I have too many bad memories of lost hours polishing turds over the last 14 or so years. I use it when I HAVE to but mostly I make people get their parts right and then i try not to work with people that cant sing at least decent.

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