Kontakt 2 instruments!

[L. A. Stone]

I can't believe how bad they are. I remember a discussion recently about Guitars and some idiot coming in here saying how Konakt's guitars were equal to the Chris Hein guitars because the Chris Hein guitars use Kontakt's sampling engine. This couldn't be further from the truth. The guitars in Kontakt 2 are absolutely the worst I've ever heard. Each and every single one of them. There's utterly, absolutely no possibility of making any of them sound real. Going straight to the guitars left me afraid of trying any other instrument as I quickly found that Kontakt, like Sampletank, Sonic Synth, and some other modules, is all about quantity, not quality. In fact, you can see who made these patches and some were made by none other than Sonic Reality. LOL. They're the same garbage instruments that can be found in other libraries. Others credit Zero-G. They're equally garbage too. For this guy to come in here and compare these guitars to Chris Hein Guitars is utterly asinine and completely misleading. The largest Guitar patch is about 7 megs and most of them sound about like a piano. Not a shred of dynamic playability. None whatsoever. Just basic samples being triggered.

I tried some of the electric pianos next and some of them were passable, a couple that sounded realistic, but again, quality is not the focus of this collection of instruments. Organs were crap. They sound like synthesizer presets rather than samples. Next, the synths and again, garbage. Nothing about the synth presets was impressive. End of story.

This is the worst collection of instruments I've ever heard. I needed a capable sampler for the Mac, and even though I never liked Kontakt, I had to finally break down and buy it because there's nothing else really for the Mac. So this wasn't a total loss, but the instruments are the biggest disappointment I've come across so far. I'll keep and use the sampler, but the library of instruments will be deleted by tomorrow. This collection is unforgivable.

[deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup]

^^^I was that "idiot". I said you can achieve the same sound you get out of CH guitars using programs like Kontakt 2, and Gigastudio, and Reason had good refills for guitar(stressed not as good, but very usable). If you can't get the best out of them, you're the problem.

Thanks for the essay, put your typing fingers on a keyboard and learn to play guitar sounds thru a sampler. Also make sure you've got the real Kontakt 2 bank, not that b.s. they got floating around the net.

[djba$$ay2k5]

no the kontakt Sample library DOES suck

if you want guitars, try Bela D media Lyrical distrotion or Prominy LPC clean.

EP's Scarbee the only to goto.

Solo Strings Stradvari Violin or Gofriller Solo Cello From Gary Garritan

Orchestra eastwest SO Gold

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/...Soo%20Fake.mp3

all with kontakt 2 EWQLSO Gold

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/6/...20I%20Ride.mp3

just the brass i kontakt 2 EWQLSO GOLD

[Trusty]

For crying out loud...BUY GUITAR RIG and find a guitarists to come lay down some licks. I assure you there are only about 1,000 of them in a twenty mile radius of you...and 90% of them would be willing to play what you need, and 90% of those guys would do it for free, and 90% of those who would do it for free probably have nothing better to do anyway.

Think outside the synth.

[djba$$ay2k5]

For crying out loud...BUY GUITAR RIG and find a guitarists to come lay down some licks. I assure you there are only about 1,000 of them in a twenty mile radius of you...and 90% of them would be willing to play what you need, and 90% of those guys would do it for free, and 90% of those who would do it for free probably have nothing better to do anyway.

Think outside the synth.

you're kidding right, time is free but patience aint, thats spent up very quickly, know no ones to sit in an mutiple hour long sesion with an amature guitarist retaking many time b4 they actually get the lick right (unless its a fine looking chick, but that different), and professional guitarist charge no less than 250 or 50\hour a session thev have themselves to feed also (and maybe their family)

and thats not even going into buying the recording eqiup to get the job done. id rather pay 300 once then find myself paying 250 everytime i feel like having a guitar in a production of mine.

[Trusty]

you're kidding right, time is free but patience aint, thats spent up very quickly, know no ones to sit in an mutiple hour long sesion with an amature guitarist retaking many time b4 they actually get the lick right (unless its a fine looking chick, but that different), and professional guitarist charge no less than 250 or 50\hour a session thev have themselves to feed also (and maybe their family)

and thats not even going into buying the recording eqiup to get the job done. id rather pay 300 once then find myself paying 250 everytime i feel like having a guitar in a production of mine.

Not really, you'd be amazed how good these local kids are at guitar these days. Professional guitarists that charge that kind of money are the ones you'd have to sit for hours with waiting for them to nail the lick because:

A. They get paid by the hour and so they constantly screw up on purpose to chew the clock.

or

B. The music surrounding the guitar is so foreign to them they can't get their head around it.

[askinsch]

By real guitar..It's a good vst for guitars..And if you're looking for a wah wah guitar then try hypersonic

[djba$$ay2k5]

nah you cant get a real wah wah unless you buy a pedal or Guitar Rig\Amplitube

[L. A. Stone]

At any rate, this this purchase wasn't a total wash. Kontakt is still a very capable sampler. One cool thing about it is that it can play nearly any format. That's a big deal to me because I now have access to stuff that I only had for the PC, or when I'm working in Cubase. For example, Kontakt loads DR-008 kits, Battery (I only have Battery 1, not compatible with the Intel Mac) kits, etc. Plus, Kontakt can load EXS instruments from Logic's sampler, and soundfonts, so I now can access those directly in Cubase. That's a pretty big deal for me. As for the guitars, I guess I'll end up buying Chris Hein Guitars and breaking out my real guitar and start learning to play again.

[clarhck5]

if your looking for dynamic playability why are you searching for it in vst's? learn too play an instrument. you compain a lot. i would love too hear your tracks