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    Don't steal software, bro. You might get sued!

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    LINK: California Federal District Court Awards Cinesamples LLC $379,050 in Digital Piracy Suit :: Film Music Magazine

    California Federal District Court Awards Cinesamples LLC $379,050 in Digital Piracy Suit

    Film Music Magazine • March 14, 2012

    Los Angeles. On March 9, 2012, in a judgment given by Federal District Court Judge Dolly M. Gee of the U.S. District Court of Central California, Cinesamples LLC, a California corporation specializing in creating and marketing virtual sample libraries for film/TV/game production, was awarded $379,050 in damages and lost profits plus attorney fees against Pablo Vargas Casas, a resident of Chile, on three causes of action: violation of the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act), copyright infringement, and breach of contract.

    According to the Court’s civil minutes, in June 2011, Mr. Casas, “used Internet discussion boards to organize a group purchase of a single license for the CineBrass software library.” On June 15, 2011, Mr. Casas purchased for download the CineBrass library for $399 U.S.D. at which point Mr. Vargas agreed to a software licensing agreement.

    After downloading the CineBrass program, Mr. Casas altered the software housing the CineBrass sample library, the Native Instruments Kontakt player, which then permitted unlicensed versions of the software to be distributed to multiple users. Mr. Casas then uploaded both the “cracked” Kontakt software and the complete CineBrass library to several illicit file sharing web sites, resulting in approximately 950 potential purchasers and unlicensed users downloading the library.

    According to his Linked In profile, Mr. Casas lists as his skills, Scripts Programming Platform Native Instruments Kontakt 4. He attended Universidad Autónoma de Temuco from 2008-2011, and the Universidad de Los Lagos from 1995-1999. Mr. Casas lists himself as the proprietor of iCeSamples [IceSamplesStore]. He is 39.

    According to his Facebook profile [https://www.facebook.com/PabloVargas72], Mr. Casas has done work for the Orquesta Barcelona.

    Because Mr. Casas did not appear in court to defend himself, Judge Gee awarded Cinesamples with a default judgment based on the list price of the program times the number of downloads. Court minutes did not state which Internet discussion boards Mr. Vargas posted to.

    Under Terms and Conditions on his own web site, Ice Samples, Mr. Casas, also a virtual sample library developer, states that, “Only the original purchaser has the right to use the sound samples. This means you cannot sell or give the sounds to anyone else.”
    To help PayPal prevent credit card fraud, Mr. Casas only accepts payments from verified PayPal users.

    Source: www.soniccontrol.tv

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    You shouldn't pirate anything anyways if you have any morals, values, respect, class or etiquette...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB The Mastermind View Post
    You shouldn't pirate anything anyways if you have any morals, values, respect, class or etiquette...
    I know.

    But I was just saying that messing around with stuff like that can cost you some big money. Companies are going after dudes for stealing stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB The Mastermind View Post
    You shouldn't pirate anything anyways if you have any morals, values, respect, class or etiquette...
    Says the guy who uses samples.

    Unless of course you have the rights to modify and distribute that music?

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    they came after this guy because distributed the product. He opened the doors by cracking it and distributing it not because he was someone who downloaded an illegal copy

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    The best reason not to steal software, however, is an entirely practical reason rather than a moral or legal one; pirated software is the source of an estimated 90-95% of computer viruses.

    When you run a business, you can't say to your clients, "Oh, yeah, sorry dude. I know you wanted me to make some minor changes to the last draft of the mix I sent you, but I actually lost all of the files and settings for that song you're paying me to mix and the stems to that beat I sold you exclusively. Just let me nuke my computer and get it running properly again with all of my pirated software, re-create that beat from scratch, and hopefully I can tweak that mix pretty close to the way you liked it again."

    See, that's just not professional. If you're trying to be a legitimate professional, it's worth the investment to use legitimate software so that your computer (and by extension, you) can be more dependable.

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    Clever virus developers set an incubation period for their viruses so that it's harder for you to track and eliminate their sources. You may unknowingly install a virus alongside some pirated software, and the virus may lay dormant for, say, 2 and a half months. Then, all of a sudden out of (seemingly) nowhere, BOOM! I guarantee you that if you have a scrap of pirated software on your computer, it's very likely that you have a dormant ticking timebomb of a virus just laying around somewhere on your hard drive, waiting to activate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem Beats View Post
    pirated software is the source of an estimated 90-95% of computer viruses.
    my porn collection disagrees
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desire Inspires View Post
    I know.

    But I was just saying that messing around with stuff like that can cost you some big money. Companies are going after dudes for stealing stuff.
    I wasn't directing that comment at you btw, just simply stating my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noblewordz View Post
    Says the guy who uses samples.

    Unless of course you have the rights to modify and distribute that music?
    I like how you assume you know anything about me or what I do with my music lol
    Your statement would have relevance if in fact I was distributing sampled material however, that is not the case... I do lease beats and yes I do have rights to them. I only distribute royalty free and cleared beats of course. Anything not cleared is just used as promotion and given away for free (mix tapes etc.)
    That being said, I hope you learned a valuable lesson here. Jumping to conclusions most always makes you look like an ass in the end...

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    Viruses are ready to jump out in most ads you see lol. You need adobe flash player to see this page content, click here to get flash plugin. End user clicks then has browser automatically close, wit ass 80 yr old ass on the desktop and fake antiviruses popping up. Ppl with no purpose in life, sit there and make that stuff.

    I'm surprised they pulled his whole card. How do you pirate stuff and have all your info on the net without being paranoid about it?

    Not to try and defend the guy, but the person who made the article is horrible. No reason this man's facebook should be included.
    Originally Posted by DjPolair did you know lex luger doesn't use eq and mixing ? yall should focus on the damn beats instead of unimportant stuff, real talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB The Mastermind View Post
    I wasn't directing that comment at you btw, just simply stating my opinion.

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    I like how you assume you know anything about me or what I do with my music lol
    Your statement would have relevance if in fact I was distributing sampled material however, that is not the case... I do lease beats and yes I do have rights to them. I only distribute royalty free and cleared beats of course. Anything not cleared is just used as promotion and given away for free (mix tapes etc.)
    That being said, I hope you learned a valuable lesson here. Jumping to conclusions most always makes you look like an ass in the end...
    lol just because you give it away free and distribute it for free doesn't make some one else's copyright void. What do you think piracy is?

    I didn't assume anything thats why I asked you a question, I suggest you go back and read what I said before you make assumptions.
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