MPD 32, and REASON TAP TEMPO

[KNOWOTHA]

What are the settings inside Reason for Tap Tempo to work ?

[Xabiton]

The tap tempo via the MPD will not work in Reason because it does not send midi to Reason. Its not a Reason issue its the way Akai built the MPDs. What I did on my MPK was do a remote override in Reason and assigned one of my function buttons to tap tempo to control tap tempo directly in Reason. It works well for me

[hollandturbine]

In order for tap tempo to work from an external device it would need to be the timing master and Reason would need to be the slave and they would both need to be able to use the same synchronization protocol.

[Xabiton]

but reason doesnt do that properly

[hollandturbine]

Reason only has one way MIDI communication and that's IN it does not do MIDI OUT, now I don't own an MPD 32 and knowing how the Props and Akai both like to only do MIDI by half's I would not bet on being right about them both working together, so if we discuss this shit don't take it as me arguing like I know for sure.

[Salem Beats]

[hollandturbine]

It's handy to have a Metronome but they are not really made for accuracy, if you tapped in 60.500 BPM it would probably just display 60 BPM and you would only pick up on it if you tapped at 2x and it gave you 121 BPM, you can probably do better with some iphone app etc.

When you use tap tempo you can improve the accuracy of your result by tapping each bar instead of each beat and then multiplying the result by 4, but then again it might not be such a big deal having a small error if you don't decide to turn it into a compound error.

[Salem Beats]

It's handy to have a Metronome but they are not really made for accuracy, if you tapped in 60.500 BPM it would probably just display 60 BPM and you would only pick up on it if you tapped at 2x and it gave you 121 BPM, you can probably do better with some iphone app etc.

When you use tap tempo you can improve the accuracy of your result by tapping each bar instead of each beat and then multiplying the result by 4, but then again it might not be such a big deal having a small error if you don't decide to turn it into a compound error.

Then of course, it's not as though your tempo-tapping is going to be perfectly on-time anyways; Anything contained within the decimal places is likely to be part of the margin of error.

An iPhone app might be better, but only if you have an iPhone (or Android, etc.). A metronome is cheaper if you don't.

[hollandturbine]

Then of course, it's not as though your tempo-tapping is going to be perfectly on-time anyways; Anything contained within the decimal places is likely to be part of the margin of error.

An iPhone app might be better, but only if you have an iPhone (or Android, etc.). A metronome is cheaper if you don't.

I use a stopwatch and calculator myself (that comes from doing safe cracking on hardware samplers) but I do recommend owning a metronome/tuner because they are such useful tools.

The thing about that margin is you want to reduce it to avoid compound errors if you can.

1 beat at 120 BPM should be 01.000 sec long but if your reaction time is slow and you are tapping a crap button you could get 01.010 sec for that 1 beat instead and each error on the beat gets added to the bar so you end up with 04.040 sec per bar, so you now have a tempo of 118.811 BPM instead of 120.000 BPM.

Now if you just tapped twice from the start to end of 1 bar with the same shitty reaction time it would read 04.010 sec, you see you reduce the error by timing the longer distance, so you end up with a tempo of 119.700 BPM.

[Xabiton]

Reason only has one way MIDI communication and that's IN it does not do MIDI OUT, now I don't own an MPD 32 and knowing how the Props and Akai both like to only do MIDI by half's I would not bet on being right about them both working together, so if we discuss this shit don't take it as me arguing like I know for sure.

I was adding clarity. I am not sure whats up with Props though because the BCF2000 does recieve midi information from Reason/Record to automate the faders but nothing else can recieve midi its strange

why buy that when Reason 5 has it already in the program and it is fairly accurate to my experience. I still think best case scenario is just to skip the MPD tap tempo button all together and just use the one directly inside of the program