Should I get an ASR-10??? help plzzz

[neillmatic]

I was thinking about getting an ASR-10.. Good desicion? I wanna sample some stuff and make some dope sounds. Do you guys reccomend any other keyboards? Also, whats a good price for the asr-10? thanks!

[grimaybeats555]

I don't have a asr-10 but I hope you know it has no sounds in it like other keyboards. Just telling you cause I've seen people and when they get home get all pissed off at the guy they bought it from cause they didn't do there research.

[bhunt]

I have a ASR 10. I bought it because I had some extra money after I got the MPC. If this is your first piece I wouldn't suggest it, but on the other hand if you are willing to put the time down and learn it, it can be a beast. I don't use mine as much as I should, but it deff adds color to your samples and with mine the guy gave me a sound set with some of the bass and pianio sounds that I use. It a dope machine to use. If you but it and buy the manual its one of the best machines that you can own.

[jahrome]

Don't do it! You will hear that it has that special sound..the filters can't be beat...Kanye West uses it...

Do not get this keybaord unless you have nothing else to do with your money. It doesn't come with any sounds. If it doesn't have the SCSI interface installed...you will end up paying at least $250 or more for this option. The average price for this keyboard is $700 but you may find one for as low as $400-500. You can find a Korg Classic Triton for close to the same amount that has about the same features and more.

I have purchased one within the past few months. It is now sitting in a hard case in storage. I won't sell it because I don't have the heart to pass it on to someone getting caught up in the hype. It costed me $400 for the board, $300 for the SCSI option, $180 for the output expander, and $200 for the hard case. ASR 10 Features: No onboard sounds, gets extremely hot during use, and expensive repairs.

The 61 key Korg Triton Studio I paid $1050 for has taken its place.

[hemogoblin]

The Ensoniq EPS was my first piece of gear about 4 years ago. All I had was the EPS and nothing else, I sampled everything I could and made tracks using just that. I upgraded to the Asr-10 and now own an MPC2KXL and a Fantom XR along with it. I have been thinking of getting rid of all of it for a MV 8000, but after messing with so many other keyboards, I am almost sure I will NEVER get rid of the asr-10.

It soudns incredible for everything except snares, its fitlers are untouchable and its ease of use is insane. If you put time into learning the functions of this keyboard, it will become your best friend. I bought this from a friend of mine who bought it in the hype and didnt even want to try and learn it, there is a reason why so many producers still have this and its still aroudn...

[jahrome]

See what I mean...the sound of it. There will be plenty of owners of this unit to try and get you to purchase one based on its sounds and filters. 10 years ago..yeah..buy this keyboard. Today, it should not be a first choice because there are many options out there for a reasonable price. The ASR 10 will not guarantee you a hit. When it comes to equipment..the best advice is to get a piece of gear that suit your needs and maximize its use. When something else comes along..their is no need to upgrade just to upgrade. especially if you have been banging out hot tracks on the equipment you already have. That is why producers that bought the ASR 10, over 10 years ago still use it.

If you want to use commercial CD Roms for the ASR10, you will need the SCSI option and a SCSI CD Rom drive. Also, it will be wise to purchase a SCSI zip drive because the floppy drive is slow. Also, if you intend to sample, floppy disk doesn't hold much samples. The ASR 10 doesn't support .wav files so this may be something to consider. It does load Akai S1000 and Roland format sounds via SCSI.

One more thing...if I created a track on my ASR10 and did the same track on my Triton...you would not be able to tell one from the other when I record them into my multi-track recording program. But I can tell you that I saved more time doing the same track on the Triton (Motif, or whatever.

I am not bashing the ASR-10. I do own one. But I would not recommend this item to anyone looking to start off with especially if there are reasonably priced alternatives that can do more and better compatible with modern equipment.

If I purchased a keyboard that cost $3000, I would never sell it for $500 if it still works as well as the day I bought it.

[thunderkyss]

I wouldn't spend more than $700 for one that already has scsi. Other than that, yeah get it. or get the EPS16+. I think they are the best sampling keyboards you can get for the money. The EPS16+ will run you about $300.

[jahrome]

Here are some useful links:

http://www.emu.com/support/files/sto...R10_manual.zip


http://www.korg.com/downloads/pdf/trnbasic.pdf

These are operating manuals for the ASR-10 and Korg Triton Classic. Read for yourself to see what they can do.

[jahrome]

One more attempt to make sure that you know exactly what you are getting...Here are the features of the ASR-10 and Triton. (I am not trying to convince you to get a Triton either..because there are also alternatives from Roland and Yamaha)

Polyphony
ASR-10 31 voices
Triton 61 voices


Sampler

ASR-10 Sampler - 16-bit, 30kHz or 44.1kHz variable sampling rates; 127 WaveSamples, up to 8 Layers per Program. Up 16 MB of memory


Triton Sampler - 16 bit, 48 kHz stereo/mono sampling, 16 MB memory standard, expandable to 64 MB. Maximum of 1,000 multi-samples / 4,000 samples. Up to 128 samples can be assigned to a multi-sample. AIFF, WAVE, AKAI (S1000/S3000) and Trinity sample data can be loaded. (Triton cannot load Trinity format data from TFD-1S, TFD-2S, TFD-3S and TFD-4S , since they use data-compressed data.)

Sequencer

ASR-10 Sequencer - 16 tracks, 80 Patterns (999 measure limit each), 1 Song at a time

Triton Sequencer- Sequencer: - 16 tracks, 100 preset / 100 user pattern per a song, 200 songs


Filters

ASR-10 Filters- 2 digital filters in series, one low-pass, one high pass. Up to 4-pole filtering with 6, 12, 18, and 24 dB/oct slopes.

Triton Filters- 24dB/ oct Low Pass Resonance type or 12 dB/oct Low Pass & High Pass type filters

Effects

ASR-10 Effects- 1 effects unit with 50 to 62 effects including vocoder (reverbs, chorus, flange, phaser, distortion, digital delay, speaker effects)


Triton Effects- Effects - 102 (insert effects/ 89 for master effects); Stereo digital multi-effect system - 2 master effects (mono in, stereo out), 5 insert effects (stereo in / out), and 1 master EQ (stereo in / out) simultaneously

Ob-boards sounds

ASR-10 Sounds- NONE

Triton Sounds- YES. 256 Programs and 9 drum kits


Visit www.prepal.com for the average used prices for these items. Ebay is a good place to start. You should be able to find them both for aorund $700-$800.

[bhunt]

I guess I will add my last 2 cents. Don't compare a ASR 10 to a Trition. The Organs, piano's and rhodes, bass and just my real instruments on my ASR will blow the triton out of the water. The only keyboard that has better real sounding instruments is a kurzweil k2500 and motif. I think people bought the ASR's and did invest in any of the sound sets, I don't think I would have if I didn't get any so I could see the power of the machine. The only real issue that I have with it is 16mg of sample memory. But I'm telling you if you buy one with scsi, and get a hardrive from this guy on ebay who will include a bunch of sounds, and invest in some of the synth disks you will have a machine that will beat the majority of the boards out right now, it may not have the pretty screen and graphics, but everyone here agrees that it sounds better than most of the boards out, its just a matter of if you want to invest in the time to learn it.