The New Roland SP-555????
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VexaDJ
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The 555 uses the same chopping method as the 404 afaik... simple but very very effective.
Either machine craps on an MPC for sampling. It's all about the sound, not the number of sequencer tracks...
Either machine craps on an MPC for sampling. It's all about the sound, not the number of sequencer tracks...
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PPE_Dane
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i'm thinking about getting it myself
Dj Frantic
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the 303/404/555/zoom sampletrak are the illest things ive ever used for chopping. Using the mark button to set the start/end point of a sample is simple genius ! Its more fun and much faster then screen editing for me. The 404 made me a believer.
yeah basically say you make a beat,you have 6 voices of polyphony in stereo or double the amount in mono in a single sequence which would make it one track,you can complete songs by chaining patterns on the sampletrak/303/404/555(if used standalone) but you could choose to complete a track in your favorite DAW and send back the results instantly to the sampler and so on...
Those units were not necessarily designed to be standalone but samplers that allow you to complete basic beats but with creativity,complete beats can be made on those units.It's like the MPC series were not designed to sample but mostly sequence from the S-series(900,950 etc...) or be the central piece if you would use different instruments with MIDI.
That said,it can be used standalone with great results.
Anyways,all machines have their pros and cons,it's really if they inspire us to be creative.
Those units were not necessarily designed to be standalone but samplers that allow you to complete basic beats but with creativity,complete beats can be made on those units.It's like the MPC series were not designed to sample but mostly sequence from the S-series(900,950 etc...) or be the central piece if you would use different instruments with MIDI.
That said,it can be used standalone with great results.
Anyways,all machines have their pros and cons,it's really if they inspire us to be creative.
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Kidd Ali
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Didnt know this was a audio/midi interface...
I've been looking for a interface + pads so maybe the 555 kill two birds with one stone??
I use Cubase/live +battery right now... My old interface doesnt work so I'm forced two use my on board soundcard...
the latency is killing me right now...
I'm kinda intrested...
I've been looking for a interface + pads so maybe the 555 kill two birds with one stone??
I use Cubase/live +battery right now... My old interface doesnt work so I'm forced two use my on board soundcard...
the latency is killing me right now...
I'm kinda intrested...
Mattman04
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TechHouseGruv
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amazing how some people just spend their money and dont do enough research, i love the 555
kcsherrell@mac.com
Resident Beatsmith
Whatever,
Look, dud had to throw out an insult at me first, I am sick of that shyt up in here! So I dont care what you all think! I went in to GC looking for a sampler (for a gig) and the deal had just came in that day, I neeeded it the next day or night for the gig. Dud at GC made it sound way better than it was, said it was 4 tracks, not one! Now, normally I would research my shyt a lot more before buying a piece, but in this case my 404 got stolen out of my car! So I had no choice!
When I bought this I thought it would replace the 404 and do quite a bit more, but in my opinion it really does not! I am not going to change the way I work for a $500 piece of gear! That would be stupid! I have been doing this a long time and I got my own way of doing things! So do you and everyone else, if it works for you buy it! I dont care what the fuk you use! If you made good shyt, then you got yours covered!
I am not going to sit by a let some dude insult me when he dont know shyt about me! I was just making lite of the 1 track thing in my original post, and dude took it all to heart! I am so sick of gear whores in here! Roland this or Akai that, who fukkin cares? I use both an MPC and several Roland pieces, but I dont get all twisted when someone says they dont like the same **** I use! They act like you just dissed their mom or somethin when you say u dont like a piece of kit, its too fukkin stupid for me!
If that is classless then so be it!
PEACE
Pimpmatik said:
Look, dud had to throw out an insult at me first, I am sick of that shyt up in here! So I dont care what you all think! I went in to GC looking for a sampler (for a gig) and the deal had just came in that day, I neeeded it the next day or night for the gig. Dud at GC made it sound way better than it was, said it was 4 tracks, not one! Now, normally I would research my shyt a lot more before buying a piece, but in this case my 404 got stolen out of my car! So I had no choice!
When I bought this I thought it would replace the 404 and do quite a bit more, but in my opinion it really does not! I am not going to change the way I work for a $500 piece of gear! That would be stupid! I have been doing this a long time and I got my own way of doing things! So do you and everyone else, if it works for you buy it! I dont care what the fuk you use! If you made good shyt, then you got yours covered!
I am not going to sit by a let some dude insult me when he dont know shyt about me! I was just making lite of the 1 track thing in my original post, and dude took it all to heart! I am so sick of gear whores in here! Roland this or Akai that, who fukkin cares? I use both an MPC and several Roland pieces, but I dont get all twisted when someone says they dont like the same **** I use! They act like you just dissed their mom or somethin when you say u dont like a piece of kit, its too fukkin stupid for me!
If that is classless then so be it!
PEACE
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VexaDJ
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Well you were the bloke who swore in your post. Makes you look stooopid, sorry. Also, with a list of gear-porn two miles long and a comment about 'only one track' and you would have to agree it makes you look like you buy before you try.
And where oh where do you get the idea I'm a 'Roland Whore'? I have more Yamaha stuff than Roland stuff. Just because I'm not an Aklie-worshipper like you, doesn't make me a Roland Whore. You've spent more money on their gear than me - who's the whore?
And as for the ridiculous "I'll put my shyt up against yours any day crap", good on ya mate - since you claim to make 'shyt' and I make music, there's not much point is there?
If you add to a thread with nothing but a negative comment, expect nothing but negative replies. Sure, make a negative comment if you were unhappy with the machine, but take the time to explain yourself!!! You can take that home with you.
And where oh where do you get the idea I'm a 'Roland Whore'? I have more Yamaha stuff than Roland stuff. Just because I'm not an Aklie-worshipper like you, doesn't make me a Roland Whore. You've spent more money on their gear than me - who's the whore?
And as for the ridiculous "I'll put my shyt up against yours any day crap", good on ya mate - since you claim to make 'shyt' and I make music, there's not much point is there?
If you add to a thread with nothing but a negative comment, expect nothing but negative replies. Sure, make a negative comment if you were unhappy with the machine, but take the time to explain yourself!!! You can take that home with you.
kcsherrell@mac.com
Resident Beatsmith
Like I said I have been at this a long time and I have collected a ton of gear over the years I have been doing this, and every piece I currently have I use! If you read my post, you would see I was just making lite of the situation initially, but you got all t'd off and acted like I insulted you personally and I am sick of that shyt in here! I have an MPC, big deal so do alot of producers and I love it! So do many other producers, so if that makes me an "Aklie-Worshipper" (I will assume you mean Akai) then sobeit, but you wont see me getting all pissed off when someone says they hate the MPC, who cares what someone else thinks? And this one time I bought something new without knowing much about it because I was against a wall (read the post). I had a gig and that is that, I had to get something quick and they had no 404's as I was used to, what should I have done in this case smart guy?
The first comment was just making lite of it and I explained myself more in the 2nd post when you got all pissed off about my comment that was not meant to be taken seriously! not meant to be a serious review! You gotta throw out insults because you dont like what someone thinks or says and that makes you look "stoooopid"! Why do you have to insult people? my comment was not directed at you and was a joke anyway? So when you disagree with someone or dont like what they say, you throw out insults? That's big of ya! When you dont know anything about someone dont make BS comments or insults PERIOD!
I took offense to your insult and that is why I responded to you, and the fact that you got all t'd off because I commented negatively about a Roland piece (Which I own many of, by the way) made you look like biased.
This entire thing is stupid! I just dont like being insulted by someone who knows nothing about me!
The first comment was just making lite of it and I explained myself more in the 2nd post when you got all pissed off about my comment that was not meant to be taken seriously! not meant to be a serious review! You gotta throw out insults because you dont like what someone thinks or says and that makes you look "stoooopid"! Why do you have to insult people? my comment was not directed at you and was a joke anyway? So when you disagree with someone or dont like what they say, you throw out insults? That's big of ya! When you dont know anything about someone dont make BS comments or insults PERIOD!
I took offense to your insult and that is why I responded to you, and the fact that you got all t'd off because I commented negatively about a Roland piece (Which I own many of, by the way) made you look like biased.
This entire thing is stupid! I just dont like being insulted by someone who knows nothing about me!
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VexaDJ
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First off, your first comment was not light, it was negative. Tip: if you think something should be taken as a joke, either make it really, really sarcastic (in the vien of mome rath) or add a j/k or lol to the end.
My reply was not meant as a personal insult to you (what do I care about some bloke on the other side of the world?!?) it was meant to be really, really sarcastic. If you want to be offended go right ahead - It'll get a few laughs. As for the stooopid comment - meant to help bloke! Swearing does make people look stupid (hence the 'I'm sorry' comment). This is because failure to articulate oneself with actual words often results in one resorting to profanity.
Now, what would I have done? Well, since you use a 404 for live stuff (and they are good when playing live, aren't they?) the 555 is the perfect step up. It has every feature of the 404 (including that one-track sequencer that people have made whole albums with) as well as some exciting new features like the loop capture. So why not just use it like a souped-up 404. You should know from your fantom how good D-Beams are in front of a crowd, and being able to sample the crowd and loop on the fly must surely open up some new possibilities in a live setting. Basically, if you already use the 404 live, the 555 can in NO WAY be seen as a step backward.
Even if it doesn't seem to be all it's cracked up to be, don't just give up on it straight away. Keep at it - you may discover something about it you didn't know you needed. Give it at least six months before throwing it. It wasn't cheap after all. I did this with the MPC500. My wife wanted it, saved for it, got it and was bitterly dissapointed. BUT, rather than just taking it back, we kept it. Kept trying. After about 8 months of the thing crashing, being noisy and sounding naff we sold it. See - after 8 months. Not five minutes.
Finally, if you don't like 'being insulted' by people you'll never meet, time to get off the net before you have a nervous breakdown. I feel your pain - I too used to get all hot under the collar about internet speak. Really it's just a bit of time-wasting and having fun while we are supposed to be working
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Peace dude n chill out!
My reply was not meant as a personal insult to you (what do I care about some bloke on the other side of the world?!?) it was meant to be really, really sarcastic. If you want to be offended go right ahead - It'll get a few laughs. As for the stooopid comment - meant to help bloke! Swearing does make people look stupid (hence the 'I'm sorry' comment). This is because failure to articulate oneself with actual words often results in one resorting to profanity.
Now, what would I have done? Well, since you use a 404 for live stuff (and they are good when playing live, aren't they?) the 555 is the perfect step up. It has every feature of the 404 (including that one-track sequencer that people have made whole albums with) as well as some exciting new features like the loop capture. So why not just use it like a souped-up 404. You should know from your fantom how good D-Beams are in front of a crowd, and being able to sample the crowd and loop on the fly must surely open up some new possibilities in a live setting. Basically, if you already use the 404 live, the 555 can in NO WAY be seen as a step backward.
Even if it doesn't seem to be all it's cracked up to be, don't just give up on it straight away. Keep at it - you may discover something about it you didn't know you needed. Give it at least six months before throwing it. It wasn't cheap after all. I did this with the MPC500. My wife wanted it, saved for it, got it and was bitterly dissapointed. BUT, rather than just taking it back, we kept it. Kept trying. After about 8 months of the thing crashing, being noisy and sounding naff we sold it. See - after 8 months. Not five minutes.
Finally, if you don't like 'being insulted' by people you'll never meet, time to get off the net before you have a nervous breakdown. I feel your pain - I too used to get all hot under the collar about internet speak. Really it's just a bit of time-wasting and having fun while we are supposed to be working
.Peace dude n chill out!
kcsherrell@mac.com
Resident Beatsmith
OK fine, I get your point, but like i said the guy at GC said it was much more than 404, which it is not loop capture does nothing for me personally and I dont use it, played with it and I can see it being useful for some, but I like all my stuff seperated (drum, bass, strings, etc....) so this just isnt for me or my style of working. So paying $520 US (what I paid), retail is $595, compared to the 404, which I can get for about $300, it just simply is not worth it for me! IMO, $300 for 1 track is one thing, but $600????? I used it for about 5 days but spent many hours on it and although it is not a step back, it has upgrades like the loop capture, audio interface and effects, but none of these do I use or would I use in the future. Also, like I said the GC salesman said it was 4 tracks and if it had been that in itself would have made it worth the extra $220 to me (for how I work)! I got my money back and bought the KP3 and some software, so I ended up with $520 worth of gear I love, rather than whatver I could get out of it used 6 months down the road, my few days with told me all I needed to know about how it would or would not work for me and the price vs the features I use made it a poor fit for me. I was not at no point saying it was a crappy product, but use a MOTU Traveler live, with pre set or pre recorded samples (I just use the 404 to trigger my samples), and I have the KP3 for my effects, so what of the new features do you see benefitting me personally, because I just did not see it, if I am wrong tell me, I will gladly admit it if I overlooked something. A piece of gear can be great for one musician and not work at all for the next. I admit that I have set way, maybe even a bit restrictive way of working, but it works for me and that is Ok with me.
Now, my main issue all along was the fact that I felt insulted, maybe I took it too seriously fine, I will accept that, but why do people in here have to even do that? I mean my initial comment was meant to be a lite remark and you indicated you did not intend to insult me, looks like we both made assumptions, huh? I did not put an lol but neither did you? I am not all up in arms at just this one incident, but I try to come in here to legitimately help others where I can adn get help or advice where I may need it, but I do not think that I or anyone else should make comments that insult people, so I just got tired of seeing it and kina blew up! I apoligize for that! It was not all on you.
I just dont understand why people have to criticize and degrade others on these sites? Rarely do people even know each other at all? It just seems so stupid to me and I will tell you if that is how it is here, than I will stay off, because that is not why I come here and I really dont think it is why you come either? You dont seem like that kind of guy to me now? Those that do just come in here to try to insult and shyt on others, ruin (IMO) this great website with good and good information. I just dont see the point and again I just got sick of it, thats all.
In the end, Im over it and I hope you are as well. I did not mean to get all pissed of and I aploigize for my insult towards you, that was doing exactly what I despise and I apoligize for that.
kcsherrell
Now, my main issue all along was the fact that I felt insulted, maybe I took it too seriously fine, I will accept that, but why do people in here have to even do that? I mean my initial comment was meant to be a lite remark and you indicated you did not intend to insult me, looks like we both made assumptions, huh? I did not put an lol but neither did you? I am not all up in arms at just this one incident, but I try to come in here to legitimately help others where I can adn get help or advice where I may need it, but I do not think that I or anyone else should make comments that insult people, so I just got tired of seeing it and kina blew up! I apoligize for that! It was not all on you.
I just dont understand why people have to criticize and degrade others on these sites? Rarely do people even know each other at all? It just seems so stupid to me and I will tell you if that is how it is here, than I will stay off, because that is not why I come here and I really dont think it is why you come either? You dont seem like that kind of guy to me now? Those that do just come in here to try to insult and shyt on others, ruin (IMO) this great website with good and good information. I just dont see the point and again I just got sick of it, thats all.
In the end, Im over it and I hope you are as well. I did not mean to get all pissed of and I aploigize for my insult towards you, that was doing exactly what I despise and I apoligize for that.
kcsherrell
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VexaDJ
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Sweet man it's all good. I apologise too for my comments. I agree $600 is a bit steep; price will come down though...doesn't help you I know!
Yeah I hear you about the trolls - this site is sooooooo big there is bound to be a certain amount of unwarranted derision..
Cheers
Yeah I hear you about the trolls - this site is sooooooo big there is bound to be a certain amount of unwarranted derision..
Cheers
kcsherrell@mac.com said:
Yo,I wasn't insulting you but I still feel like that post lacked class,in fact you're the one hurling the insults.
You don't have to like Roland and love Akai but write a post that will inform us because we're here to help each other and learn...
If you don't like the piece,just say why and in a concise manner.
kcsherrell@mac.com
Resident Beatsmith
Look its all over! Forget about it we cleared the air, but I was not talking about you in the first place???
All in all it was a misunderstanding, and I just blew up when I shouldn't have! (I am just sick of people throwing insults out here! If you read my last post , you will see that I apoligized for doing what I depise!) I have explained myself to VexaDJ and that is that, so I am not sure what else to say! He is over it and so am I!
I did not know there were rules about posting? I meant the initial post to be lite, not a serious review! So, maybe I made a mistake, but do you want eveyone who posts on FP to write a full review on a product? Give me a break! I was just simply saying that it had 1 track, for my use that is not enough, for how I work PERIOD. Again, it was not meant to be a full and consise report on the product. But whatever!
PEACE
All in all it was a misunderstanding, and I just blew up when I shouldn't have! (I am just sick of people throwing insults out here! If you read my last post , you will see that I apoligized for doing what I depise!) I have explained myself to VexaDJ and that is that, so I am not sure what else to say! He is over it and so am I!
I did not know there were rules about posting? I meant the initial post to be lite, not a serious review! So, maybe I made a mistake, but do you want eveyone who posts on FP to write a full review on a product? Give me a break! I was just simply saying that it had 1 track, for my use that is not enough, for how I work PERIOD. Again, it was not meant to be a full and consise report on the product. But whatever!
PEACE
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RedXIII
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Pretty new to samplers and all that. Using the sampler with a computer is an optional thing right?
Also how would you connect it to a PA? I didn't see and 1/4 outputs on it from brief look.
Sorry to be asking such silly questions, just doing my research before I invest my hard earned cash.
Also how would you connect it to a PA? I didn't see and 1/4 outputs on it from brief look.
Sorry to be asking such silly questions, just doing my research before I invest my hard earned cash.
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