"Legendary MPC Swing"

[Straight]

Just wondering which MPC did you try out and did you use the same samples on the MPC as the samples you use on FL? Was the monitoring set-up the same? Were the monitoring conditions the same?

the first time I noticed something is better with MPC beats I was listening to them on my PC with that cheap soundcard. I did my FL beats with the same. I felt like I can't achieve that warmth in FL (for 4 years).

now I tried an MPC500, with the basic soundsets (I have them on my PC). Monitoring system was better, but I'm not talkin' about that. It can't be that important, cuz I already noticed this on my speakers.
And I DID heard fruity beats on a really nice speaker set.


ANYWAY, don't try to tell me that you need highend monitoring system to hear music and swing.

Those very expensive stuffs are used to mixing and mastering, that's when you need them. Things I'm talkin' about mpc swing and sound and sh... can be heard on a simple walkman.


And I have TONS of samples, do you guys really think that ALL of those sounds are wack and the one I heard on that 500 was the only good kit?

[DisoBAYish]

I can make the exact same "swing" in FL sudio easily but I learned how to make beats with that progam so I understand it inside and out, I can also turn off the quantize on my sp-303 and get a great swing or live feel to a beat because it's programed live by a human. Finally, Digidesign licensed akai's quantize algorythms for Pro Tools. In my opinion mpc's are completely overpriced and overrated for a 20 year design that they still use to this day. Common it's not like akai is the only company that can figure out mathmatical formula for quantization, Besides all my favorite drum breaks are from humans not machine's mimicing them.

[Straight]

I can make the exact same "swing" in FL sudio easily

could you attach one?

thanks

[DisoBAYish]

Here you go straight, I made this 2 years ago and since I use a mac now I can't load my other fl beats, so this is the closet I got on it.

[bobsmitt]

there's no difference in swing or any bull****. it's the exact same. i think i would know since i've been using FL for over a year and i'm familiar with the MPC though i'm definitely not as experienced with it as i am with FL. i don't see how you (Straight) would know since you said (i think) that you don't even own a MPC. if you think getting a MPC would make your beats have some magical change it won't happen. maybe the workflow change will help but there isn't some difference in sound that will make ur beats sound better. that's all in the sounds/samples u use and mixing.
here's a test.
which is made in FL, which is made with a MPC?
1) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/song...songID=5533069
2) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/song...songID=5458011

[Mattman04]

here's a test.
which is made in FL, which is made with a MPC?
1) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/song...songID=5533069
2) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/song...songID=5458011

He guessed wrong with a 2 of my myspace beats, so even if he guess's wrong with these beats he likely won't be convinced.
Anyway your giving him a 50-50 chance of being right.
He could guess the right one without even listening.
Shoot him 4-6 beats, and see what he comes up with.

[Straight]

DisoBAYish : thanks for the beat, yeah it is really something like that

bobsmitt, Mattman04: I NEVER said that I can tell which beat made on mpc and which not. I said i feel like MPCs can do something that fruity can't. Even my friend's old synthetiser sounds a fat way that FL just can't.

I will be very happy if I don't have to buy an mpc for that sound I'm looking for. FL is my favourite.

when I went and tried that MPC, I hoped I end up sayin it's an overrated stuff for rich producers.

Anyway, I really don't give a sh about technical things as long as I hear what I hear. A lot of pro producers say that they don't like computer's sound, they may know what they're talking about.


Don't be mad I'm keep on tryin.

[Mattman04]

Nah, noboby's mad.
While I no longer own an mpc I don't regret buying one either.
I was in a learning stage, and heck you always are no matter how long you've been in this.
There's always something to learn.

If you get the money though your better off with some decent monitors, or nice bookshelf speakers with a flat frequency response.

Alot of people myself included have passed on monitors in favor of other equiptment because of what they call gear lust lol.

[Straight]

yeah yeah there's always something to learn.. I just think that I'm experienced enough to listen to my ears (yeah maybe I'm not).

Just know that I really feel what you're saying, cuz I think it really had to be the same sound.

I could be convinced though.. for example if someone did the same (NOT WACK) drumbeat with the same sounds on MPC and FL, and show me.

I'm really here to learn not to tell you what's good and what's not.

And yeah maybe I'd fail a blind test again, but it's like I show you 5 acapellas (one'd be Justin Timberlake, another Busta Rhymes, Coolio, 2pac, Mary J Blige) and would say tell me which was recorded with Sony, Neumann, AKG, Brauner or AudioTechnica mics. Could you tell me? No, but that doesn't mean there's no difference.

[Mattman04]

Here's a test done over at gearslutz.com you might find interesting.
Not sure if you saw this yet.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-h...ery-sound.html