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    Anyone remember Sex Shooter by Apollonia 6?? Before my time I know lol But I really really really love the synth sounds on that record. Does anyone know what synth was used on this? I'm pretty sure Prince produced this record. If no one knows, what current synth would be able to recreate something like that now?

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    A link to the song
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeU4A...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROdiculis
    Anyone remember Sex Shooter by Apollonia 6?? Before my time I know lol But I really really really love the synth sounds on that record. Does anyone know what synth was used on this? I'm pretty sure Prince produced this record. If no one knows, what current synth would be able to recreate something like that now?

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    Prince used a lot of Oberheim synths like the OB-8. Oberheim synths used a 12db SEM style filter (and later a switchable 12db/24db CEM filter). Modern analog synths which use such a filter are the Alesis Andromeda, Studio Electronics ATC-X, Studio Electronics SE-1x, and Studio Electronics Omega/Code.

    As far as digital hardware synths, the Alesis Ion and Micron can do pretty believable Oberheim sounds by way of their modeled Oberheim filter.

    In VST form, there is this:

    http://www.sonicprojects.ch/obx/vstversion.html
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    hmm I hadn't even really considered those in my synth selection process, I've been leaning towards the Prophet '08 for a while now, how do you think that would fair in reproducing that sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROdiculis
    hmm I hadn't even really considered those in my synth selection process, I've been leaning towards the Prophet '08 for a while now, how do you think that would fair in reproducing that sound?
    The Prophet 08 would probably do an OK job. It has all of the features necessary to reproduce those 80's sounds, but I'm not quite sure if the sound is all there. The Prophet 08 uses CEM chips, the same brand found in many of the analog synths that came out in the mid to later part of that decade (think Jupiter 6, Juno, etc). The particular line of CEM chips in the Prophet 08, though, was originally designed in the 1990's for the Marion MSR-2 rack synth. They don't really sound the same as the 80's variants.

    Plus, for the real synth geeks out there, the Propet 08's oscillators and filter are under digital control, as opposed to the voltage controlled components found in the other synths that I posted here. I don't want to get into a "which sounds better" debate, but there is a difference in the way voltage controlled components sound and behave. For what it is worth, the Andromeda gives its users to tinker with its engine, allowing one to enable/disable various tuning routines for the sake of reproducing these different behaviors.

    The main thing that put me off from even considering a Prophet 08, though, is the lack of a multimode filter. Sure it can do 24 and 12db slopes, but only in lowpass mode. There's no way to do highpass or bandpass filtering on the Prophet 08. I don't think it's an essential feature to have for the type of sounds that you are looking for though.
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    Well since you seem pretty knowledgeable why don't I just ask you the question I really want to. I'm pretty much in the hunting for a new synth. I'll be producing a wide range of stuff but mostly Hip hop/ R&b/ Rock/ pop /alternative . But nothing like whats really on the radio. I'm in a hip hop/rock band, think N.E.R.D. meets The Roots meets Rage Against the Machine meets Kenna. I want something that is very tweakable because i like creating really unique original sounds. I was looking at the virus's but they are too..eehh "techy", same with some of the Korg stuff. Maybe I didn't really get to dive into them, but that was my initial impression. Polyphony is very important, im a chordy player, at least 8 voices. I won't be playing live, it will mostly be in the studio. I'm not necessarily looking for a "all in one" synth, just something that complements my soft synths and provides some hands on inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROdiculis
    Well since you seem pretty knowledgeable why don't I just ask you the question I really want to. I'm pretty much in the hunting for a new synth. I'll be producing a wide range of stuff but mostly Hip hop/ R&b/ Rock/ pop /alternative . But nothing like whats really on the radio. I'm in a hip hop/rock band, think N.E.R.D. meets The Roots meets Rage Against the Machine meets Kenna. I want something that is very tweakable because i like creating really unique original sounds. I was looking at the virus's but they are too..eehh "techy", same with some of the Korg stuff. Maybe I didn't really get to dive into them, but that was my initial impression. Polyphony is very important, im a chordy player, at least 8 voices. I won't be playing live, it will mostly be in the studio. I'm not necessarily looking for a "all in one" synth, just something that complements my soft synths and provides some hands on inspiration.
    The Virus is actually pretty good at doing analog emulations. You just have to dig into the engine to get what you want. Check out what this guy was able to squeeze out of his Virus KB:

    http://www.perkristian.net/studio_viruskb.shtml

    I've never owned a Virus though, because various other synths have done a better job at fitting my needs, and I've been pretty critical of what I thought were some real shortcomings in that engine. I still like the basic sound character of the Virus though, and I might get a Virus A or B sometime in the future, but it's towards the end of a very long list of things to get right now.

    That said, my current "go to" synth is the Alesis Andromeda. Mainly because it has "that" raw analog sound that so many people seem to crave, but can't get out of softsynths and digital hardware synths. It's no wonder too, because when the engineers at Alesis set out to make the Andromeda, they studied all of the classic analog synths of yesteryear, and picked the functions and features which they deemed best and crammed them into one analog supersynth. The result was a 16 voice polyphonic, voltage controlled, analog synth which shares features with the Moog Modular, Oberheim SEM, and Yamaha CS80.

    It's been a pretty underrated synth ever since it debuted in 2000, with most people not really understanding what it's all about. The relatively recent surge in popularity that it's been getting can probably mostly be attributed to it showing up in youtube videos posted by hip hop artists like Ryan Leslie. Jamiroquai seems to be pretty partial to his Andromeda as well, but I don't think he has too many fans on this forum.

    It's kind of hard to sum up what it sounds like though, because it's just so flexible. It excels at reproducing vintage synth tones, but it's also great at making punchy modern sounds. Here are a couple of demos which may give you an idea of what it's all about:

    Some mellower vintage sounds (the sound at 2:09 is great):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0EnzRoVY6Y

    A trance demo:

    http://matrixsynth.com/blog/media/mi...da_demo2_1.mp3

    the (in)famous Ryan Leslie video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkL5o14edjQ

    I would whole heartedly recommend getting one, especially if are into making your own sounds. The engine is so deep, and the sound is so rewarding, that one could foreseeably use it for a lifetime. That and it's pretty future proof. VST's will come and go, and digital synths will continue improving, but the Andromeda is analog, and won't benefit from an increase in sound quality unless people are willing to deal with astronomical component prices. It's also extremely unlikely that anyone will be producing another 16 voice analog synth anytime soon, let alone a voltage controlled one.
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    hey i was wondering if you guys knew where i could find the midi for the song ??

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