deRaNged 4 Phuk'dup said:I didn't read all this thread I'll just get to some key points.
1. Who is this guy, what has he done. If he's not at least bigger than me, what can he tell me?
2. Clean drums dominate hip hop right now. For all of this millineum, this is why it's no longer nessesary to get breakbeats, 90% of you don't understand, my stock drums knock in clubs while you overcompress those vinyl drums to get that lil' bit of undistinguished knock. Other producers like your sh*t but rappers don't want them. Fans ain't listenin. The reason why Primos not as relevant in 2007 as Shawty Redd. Real talk.
3. There's no difference in the sound of either. He admitted to using stock drums in reason and analog vinyl samples in the MPC. I could redo the whole vid loading analog vinyl samples in Reason and stock drums in MPC and counterprove the entire point.
4. WTF can he hear thru those rinky dink computer speakers he's using?
5. This argument will go on forever because people are too dumb to know digital sound is digital sound. That mixer and M-Box he ran the MPC thru while using samples from vinyle will give it a different sound than stock drums on reason straight thru a soundcard, but you gotta be a dumb MF to not know why.
5. If he used Optical or SPDIF outs from both an MPC and his computer, used the same samples from both programs, he would get precisely the same sound from both. This is fact, make all the videos you want. Digital = digital the same as 2+2=4.
6. I'm not in defence of anything, I own it all, it's just annoying that you guys spend all this time thinking buying something new makes your sh*t sound better. That's why most of your sh*t is garbage now. 90% of the time when I see an unknown producer with over $2000 worth of sh*t, their music sounds like it's off of a casio. Learn to use what you got, that's all you need. Don't let some nikka in a lil' ass apartment with a MPC1000 and Reason tell you sh*t. Don't let me with my numerous credits and movie scores tell you sh*t. Look up actual factual documents that will prove everything I'm saying correct, then go make a got damn beat. Why is y'all taking advice from random nikkas who making assumptions based on their entry level experiences with reason and the new king of hardware the oh so unattainable production savior...the MPC1000
7. Nobodies "Making sure hip hoppers can't afford equipment". It's priced around the work that goes into it. Nobody makes Motifs $3,000 so that people can't buy them. And a real software producer's not using his moms computer. You're investing in something powerful enough to run programs as flawlessly as hardware runs. And vice versa. So my new sh*t is can't no nikka with anything less than an 88 key workstation, MV 8000, or MPC 4000 tell me sh*t. If ya sh*t got flash memory you're playing with toys.
1. IDK but his sh!t (on reason and the mpc) sounds good to me
2. Your right for the most part, but i think primo is relevant in 2007 man. Listen to Christina A. album. She even got a single out of primo that was on the radio a f***load. Primos relevant when primo wants to be...he doesn't play that club sh!t. WE can all make crunk music, it isn't hard. But unfortunatly your right about your club anthyms doing better than good old hip hop.
3. I'd wanna see that video...itd be interesting to watch.
4. Those might be tight speakers man...i got some boston "rickidy" speakers and they got subs on the bottom and they knock like your mother and father on they anniversary..(i got em for free from my job)
Cameras dull down the sound quite a bit
5. Right on...
6. and 7. I think ur missing the point...his main point is that most of the equipment made (ASRs, MPCs) were not made for hip hop. And most of that stuff was expensive as hell back in the day. Hes stating that producers made these things hip hop...then he goes on to reason and fl talking about how they are made for hip hop and sh!t which makes them a little bit different.
Lastly, most producers are dissing on the MP glorifying computers, when they are in fact specialized computers to do one specific function.
Most are dissing on software, (I own fl, hate it, but love reason) i think its cuz we feel p.o.ed that some kid with a laptop and a copy of fl gains the title of producer. Get a turntable some nice monitors, midi controllers...something man. Its definitly more powerful in capablity, but that doesn't necessarily mean its better.
Some take limitations and it brings the creativity
Some take no limits and it brings creativity
I really think this guy knows what he's talking about
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It certainly ain't subjective. 
