Dude, do some research and find out the major differences on the
MV8000 and the 8800.Beside the on board color screen ofcourse and see if you can live without the 8800. I have a practicaly brand new MV8000 with VGA, and 4 DVDs worth of patches. I will even throw in a 17" flat screen monitor. Make me an offer. Guaranteed you wont even notice the diff between it and the MV8800.Get at me.