vinyl quality vs utube quality

who the **** samples from youtube? thats some real low-level shit right there. the game is so ****ed up right now I can't even believe it

if you don't know the difference between mp3 and vinyl, you need to do some studying before you start producing. thats some real basic shit
 
People are oblivious out of stubbornness.

Last time vinyl was the only source people were using to sample from was back when samplers were maxing out at like mono 22khz 8bit wavs. THOSE DON'T SOUND BETTER THAN AN MP3.

Quit lying to yourselves.

I've never heard a rapper or consumer say "that beat is dope, but you need to replace that mp3 sample off youtube with a wav one from an actual record.

Once it's smothered in drums and other instruments, the degraded quality isn't noticeable. That's why it became a practice to smother samples underneath drums and sounds back when people had 22khz 8 bit mono samplers with 5 seconds of memory.

Yet we dare pretend some magical essence is lost taking a song that was ripped from vinyl off an HQ youtube channel. Tell that to guys with hit records made off entire beats downloaded from soundclick. :rolleyes:

I bet most dudes debating this don't even get a good quality input off their turntables when they run them to their computer anyway.

Sidenote: any time I have the choice, I'm going for the wav/aiff/ape/flac/bin cue/iso file. But if the sound is there in whatever form, I'm getting it, and making it into a quality production by the time it's a finalized song.
 
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WHAT A FUKKING JOKE.

FP is fukking debating over ripping shitbag mp3 streams to produce tracks with?????
Really?
And somehow, this is supposed to be taken seriously..?
Get your heads out of your asses.
 
I AM THE BEST PRODUCER EVER I SAMPLE STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE I SNEAK INTO JAM SESSIONS IN GARAGES AND CHANNEL THE RAW NATURAL SOUND INTO PRO TOOLS Y'ALL LOSERS AIN'T EVEN IN MY LEAGUE B.

But seriously. Some of y'all the reason I'm ashamed to use the term "producer". Some of you just can't get off some elitist shit.

This is my general rule about this kind of thing. If it sounds good, let your head naturally get your nod on, and impresses regular people aka consumers then it's all good. the key being regular people. Don't go trying to impress "producers". They ain't ever gonna be happy.

"That's dope, but you should put a bit more reverb on the 3rd hihat hit and a bit more compression on the bass"

"***** your beats sound like the bastard child of Tears For Fears and Cameo"

Some of you creating a three year old's fingerpaintings with high-grade pastels, and some of you drawing Renaissance era masterpieces with a No 2 HB pencil. Think about that.
 
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Some of y'all the reason I'm ashamed to use the term "producer". Some of you just can't get off some elitist shit.

THE FUKKING IRONY HURTS.

Yeah, man, "just cant get off" trying to use quality ingredients. Just cant give that shit up... lol.
Seriously, this is fukking stupid.

"Think about" this;
The fact that some people might sample from mp3 streams is not so bad.
But that people are defending it, and recommending it? Thats pretty fukking bad.
"Producers"
FP has gone full retard...
 
"Think about" this;
The fact that some people might sample from mp3 streams is not so bad.
But that people are defending it, and recommending it? Thats pretty fukking bad.
"Producers"
FP has gone full retard...

No one's saying that you should be sampling exclusively from mp3's. In fact, everyone here is saying the exact same thing you just said.

"Think about" this;
The fact that some people might sample from mp3 streams is not so bad.

No one's saying that mp3's are better than ripping a wav off a vinyl, because that would legitimately mean you don't know anything. BUT what I'm saying is mp3's are still a resource you can use, and it'd be rather foolish to not use it when necessary.
 
If you on an SP-12 Drum Machine keepin it "real" and 'to the essence", your vinyl samples will be crappier than a youtube rip. 100% FACT.

I recommend getting sounds from anywhere. I'll sample arps or a melody I played from a vsti I have in demo mode. I'll sample from Netflix or Hulu. I'll go to ebay to buy records(still e-diggin, right?), sample from itunes, TV.

I used to sample from Tape decks, the radio, video games from running the RCA audio cables to my sampler. now compare that to "youtube quality". I used to sample "porn music" and "HBO/Showtime movie soundtracks" from the blurry channels(you know, don't pay for them and they're all staticy with hella white noise to clean up, but worth it for a good loop). People just want reasons to pretend they're doing more than the next guy.

A youtube sample isn't the worst thing you can throw into a song. Even Skrillex has done it with big hits, and i never heard his mix quality questioned.

---------- Post added at 09:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:48 PM ----------

Crazy lady screaming at skateboarders? - YouTube


0:25 He got it from this exact video. Guess we're all at a better bracet of quality than skrillex?

In our minds only. :cheers:
 
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How about converting them to wav??

But youtube quality is very clean when it is on 1080p or even 720p... Just make sure it's on one of those two levels for a "clean" quality sound... As for vinyl, I don't know, but naturally I would think the sound is clean for it.
 
Converting something to WAV will never up the sound quality, only the file size. After quality is lost or downgraded, it can never be improved.
 
How about converting them to wav??

But youtube quality is very clean when it is on 1080p or even 720p... Just make sure it's on one of those two levels for a "clean" quality sound... As for vinyl, I don't know, but naturally I would think the sound is clean for it.
changing the format from mp3 to wav doesn't change the sound quality just the load format so that certain programs can read the files. I think quality is different depending on the person and that is where the argument comes from. Some people want that clarity and others want that dirt and little bit of extra bottom that comes from vinyl. I personally fall under that side of argument but a lot of people prefer the clarity of a cd or mp3. I used to say those guys were wrong now I feel its just a matter of preference. Though some guys are just being cheap and lazy and want someone to hand them samples and will only work with something that has been handed to them.
 
I think youtube sampling is really fun, easy, and good workflow if you can rip sound straight off a track. I will go so far and say this, its almost perfect for sampling. So this topic is valid, legit and beginners questioning about it is just right. Face it buddy's.

PROS:
1. You dont have to guess what your buying, and then coming to find out it sounds like shit, or nothing of value. Using money on bunch of crap isnt really something i can afford. Even tho i know the feeling of working with what you got and make the best out of it is great, i also get that with Youtube, plus i can filter out what i dont need, and thus save space on my computer.

2. You can pick out exactly what you want from a song, dont have to download the whole CD, whatever.

3. Especially beginners should use it, because of all the knowledge it provides. What i mean by that is that its EASY to discover new "OLD artists/bands" and different genres to experiment with.

4. That comes in handy. Sometimes when you surfin trough YT, just watching the pictures popping up in the right field, remember to make sure you turn off the "recommended for you thing" and there when you hit the jackpot and find that one sample, just hope its HD, but i hope its not hehe=)

5. When you do that, on the road of getting more knowledge, your not limiting yourself to the famous bands everybody samples from on Vinyl and so on. but yeah, on the road, you WILL sample something you just like but have no idea of how its going to work, just try it, play it, record it, chop it, make a easy lil drumpattern, play around with the mapped out slices. Have a nice day. ART BY ACCIDENT. This is an amazing feeling, i recommend trying things for no reason. expand.

6. This is that one place where you will find sounds of allmost everything, all in one website. Just because of the soundquality it should be stupid? dont get it..

Cons.
1. I personally dont like the new youtube so much.
2. The sound quality itsnt always on top, but if it dont work, and you need the sample, do some searches other places, then buy the record and you good. Or if its not important, get to the next one. Dont sample it.

SUM:
Youtube will get you further faster than other places, but say if you want to sample highquality drums from a loop, maybe youtube isnt the place because of the soundquality.. The same goes for bass, it really depends on ones personal style and preference. But for most parts, 360 quality on youtube works if you know how to mix and layer your samples for your liking. Fact.

Thanks.

PS. If you dont know what to search for? Just write some randomshit, something like: Clown in plastic, rubber 1975 ost, talking waitress 1978. whatever works. just dont give up.
 
I think youtube sampling is really fun, easy, and good workflow if you can rip sound straight off a track. I will go so far and say this, its almost perfect for sampling. So this topic is valid, legit and beginners questioning about it is just right. Face it buddy's.

PROS:
1. You dont have to guess what your buying, and then coming to find out it sounds like shit, or nothing of value. Using money on bunch of crap isnt really something i can afford. Even tho i know the feeling of working with what you got and make the best out of it is great, i also get that with Youtube, plus i can filter out what i dont need, and thus save space on my computer.

2. You can pick out exactly what you want from a song, dont have to download the whole CD, whatever.

3. Especially beginners should use it, because of all the knowledge it provides. What i mean by that is that its EASY to discover new "OLD artists/bands" and different genres to experiment with.

4. That comes in handy. Sometimes when you surfin trough YT, just watching the pictures popping up in the right field, remember to make sure you turn off the "recommended for you thing" and there when you hit the jackpot and find that one sample, just hope its HD, but i hope its not hehe=)

5. When you do that, on the road of getting more knowledge, your not limiting yourself to the famous bands everybody samples from on Vinyl and so on. but yeah, on the road, you WILL sample something you just like but have no idea of how its going to work, just try it, play it, record it, chop it, make a easy lil drumpattern, play around with the mapped out slices. Have a nice day. ART BY ACCIDENT. This is an amazing feeling, i recommend trying things for no reason. expand.

6. This is that one place where you will find sounds of allmost everything, all in one website. Just because of the soundquality it should be stupid? dont get it..

Cons.
1. I personally dont like the new youtube so much.
2. The sound quality itsnt always on top, but if it dont work, and you need the sample, do some searches other places, then buy the record and you good. Or if its not important, get to the next one. Dont sample it.

SUM:
Youtube will get you further faster than other places, but say if you want to sample highquality drums from a loop, maybe youtube isnt the place because of the soundquality.. The same goes for bass, it really depends on ones personal style and preference. But for most parts, 360 quality on youtube works if you know how to mix and layer your samples for your liking. Fact.

Thanks.

PS. If you dont know what to search for? Just write some randomshit, something like: Clown in plastic, rubber 1975 ost, talking waitress 1978. whatever works. just dont give up.

Best post in here.
 
Vinyl vs YouTube

Technically, yes a vinyl sample is of higher quality than a uber-compressed YouTube mp3; unless your vinyl or needle is crap and killing the quality. I've sampled from YouTube, Netflix, HBOgo, Spotify, Pandora, etc. and no one has ever called me out on the quality of a sample. If you were working on something for free or fun, who cares. If you're making something for commercial use (which most producers aren't fortunate enough to encounter), go that extra mile to get the original sample, albeit from a vinyl, CD, FLAC, etc. I personally have grown to love the soft hum of analog, with a hint of vinyl crackle; I try to sample from my personal vinyl collection whenever possible. I'm up to 3000+ now :-)

 
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